> Bill, you live in a theoretical world. It's a matter of direction - which way to go from where we are.
> When you're up to your neck in alligators, it's hard to > remember that you were there to drain the swamp. Not sure what you mean by that > You don't know what they would or would not have accomplished > if 911 wouldn't have happened, and we will never know. You're on a line of thinking here that isn't coming across. > To bring the perps out, as you say, there has to be a crime. > I and many others do not see a crime here. There is a threshold when a crime is so big that people think it can't possibly be a crime. Such was the invasion of the ME. > Oh, the current > media frenzy makes it seem that way, but I have learned the > hard way that he who controls the media, controls the world, > which is why I no longer watch nor read the news. Listen to what people with different points of view have to say, and then think for yourself. > As for your plan to turn over the worlds fate to the UN, I > will not vote for it, because in july on our own soil, the UN > started trying to take away all of our guns under the pretext > of it will make the world a safer place, but in reality, I > believe that they know without guns we cannot defend > ourselves, so the UN will NEVER receive my vote, nor will it > ever receive the votes of other people that share my belief's. There are some issues, such as nuclear disarmament, that cannot be handled any other way. Look at what's happening with the other approach, where some countries say they can have them and others can't. The status quo is that the countries without, threatened by those with, have accelerated their weapons programs. Anyone call that progress? In all cases, government is a necessary fact of life. We form governments at specific levels to perform specific functions at that level. That they take lives of their own with 'mission creep' is our failing, but we can't throw the baby out with the bathwater; we just need to be more vigilant. This is the job of charters and checks and balances. > Now I will agree that we should not meddle in other countries > affairs, and that we shall pull our troops out of every > country that doesn't want us there, but that leads to another > question such as this one. > > If your neighbor (pick your country) is being brutalized and > you do nothing, what kind of man does that make you, OR if > you choose to do something about it, now are you an > aggressor, or a savior ? > > It all depends on your perspective, doesn't it ? It depends on your intent and attitude. The ME invasion was a scam. It was really about seizing authority, not to help anyone other then the protagonists. Had the mission really been to help the people of the region, the approach would have been completely different. Bill > Virgil Bierschwale _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
