Thierry, I think you are onto something, though my perspective is not so
much on the interface but rather the business rules. That is where I see
the intangibles. Foxers have accumulated a library of business domain
knowledge and some are now retiring. All that knowledge is going to be lost.
What is needed, in my opinion, is a truly flexible business rules
framework. The key to that is having a layer that responds to database
field and record triggers without being tied to the underlying storage
mechanics. It needs a universal dictionary and that is where the semantic
web is heading.

It will be a shame to see this knowledge disperse when it has so much
potential.

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Thierry Nivelet <[email protected]>
wrote:

> To me the value is not so much in VFP, but in the intelligence accumulated
> (capitalized) into the software along the years, what finance people call
> 'intangible'. That's where the value really is, as we've written this back
> in 2010 (http://foxincloud.com/why.php).
>
> Balmer betting on a 'savior' technology back in the early 2000' just
> forgot that 20 years of accumulated value could certainly not be rebuilt in
> 5 or even 10 years.
>
> That's why we created FoxInCloud, to offer a bridge across technologies
> that would preserve this accumulated value.
>
> We're now thinking of machine learning: how FoxInCloud can learn from
> seeing the application running on the Web to build a reprogramming canvass
> under a REST technology such as Angular: under each user event, what data
> is needed and what control needs refresh, which model/view/controller are
> needed and which one can be shared across events.
>
> The idea behind is that the visible part of the application (the GUI)
> properly reflects how the business needs to interact with the outside
> world's events and the data, and this should be preserved regardless of the
> underlying technology. And there must be a way to implement this invisible
> part in a different technology.
>
> Thierry Nivelet
> FoxInCloud
> Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
> http://foxincloud.com/
>
>
> Le 06/10/2017 à 04:37, Paul H. Tarver a écrit :
>
>> I can confirm this situation. I wrote a very complex, custom management
>> system with VFP back office which synced to a Java based public web system
>> sitting on top of a FirebirdSQL database.
>>
>> After 15 years with at least 6 different programmers trying to re-write
>> my system they are still using all of my programming and in spite of them
>> not doing business with me for at least 8 of those years that old workhorse
>> built on VFP just keeps humming along.
>>
>> No idea how much they've spent trying to replace that system but so far
>> nothing beats the Fox.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 2:43 PM, Kevin Cully <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I worked for a company that produced Real Estate software for the
>>> commercial side of things.  We had a national client that said they were
>>> leaving our product to develop a new .NET solution with another company.
>>>
>>> They returned after 1.5 years and after spending $2.1M.  They started
>>> asking us for enhancements again. Ouch.
>>>
>>> I'm figure throwing away a working system *may* work, but most likely
>>> it's an expensive lesson to someone.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/05/2017 01:25 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
>>>> Kevin,
>>>>
>>>> At our user group we were told by a Microsoft representative (well
>>>> known to
>>>> the Fox community) that Dell was throwing away all their internal
>>>> applications **sight unseen** to rewrite them in the beta version of
>>>> .NET
>>>> 1.0.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how that turned out?
>>>>
>>>> Bill Anderson
>>>>
>>>> For 20 years now, Microsoft has been telling me that I've been
>>>>>> developing
>>>>>>
>>>>> with an inferior tool and that .NET is better.  Is it ready now?<<
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 6:45 AM, Kevin Cully <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For 20 years now, Microsoft has been telling me that I've been
>>>>> developing
>>>>> with an inferior tool and that .NET is better.  Is it ready now?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I'll stick with Foxpro and now Xojo for developing business
>>>>> solutions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't hate .NET.  I'm just going to continue to ignore it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/04/2017 11:01 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the 2017 .NET Conference Keynote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yecu4g5JYB8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has morphed from the .NET you all hated so much 15 years ago.  They
>>>>>> show
>>>>>> working in Chrome and not Bing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the beginning goes over NuGet if you are unfamiliar with posting
>>>>>> packages
>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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