Well, all this is too theoritical for me to contribute in any useful way.
All I know is the level of difficulty to properly parse a language; eg.
VFP, we did some parsing for FAA; very difficult to make it structured,
maintainable and reliable on the whole spread of cases. Transpiling
would probably be twice as difficult, it'd require a decent team.
Thierry Nivelet
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Le 09/10/2017 à 15:08, Paul Hemans a écrit :
Interesting discussion thanks for your input.
In my opinion, we have stagnated because the evolution of the community
requires a roadmap that provides something that the old path could not do.
Tech has moved on. I appreciate Chen's work but in my mind the future of
coding is in a combination of Object Relational Mapping, the Internet Of
Things, Crypto and the Semantic web. The glue that holds it together should
be a VFP-esque language because that makes the rules literate for humans.
Visual programming is great, I love Blockly for simple rules. I would hate
to try and code a warehouse management system in it.
It is like Behaviour Driven Development. I want to be able to tell the
computer the business rules without being shoe-horned into a computer
language which is optimized for execution. It should be a language for the
exchange of concepts between humans and computers. That is where BASIC, but
more specifically dBase, really revolutionized coding.
For me, I see an opportunity for dBase rules to transpile into JS. It
obviously requires a substantial database layer but by using established
ORMs (like knex.js) it means you don't have to do the mechanics of the data
storage. It is a parsing problem.
Anyway just musing.
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Thierry Nivelet <[email protected]>
wrote:
Le 09/10/2017 à 12:57, Paul Hemans a écrit :
The VFP community which is now quite small
Rather than small, I would say that the number of leaders is small, mainly
because -- in my eyes -- the 'elite' of the community is reluctant to renew
itself, and accept new members, new ideas, new ways to move forward.
eg., Chen of Baiyujia has done an **incredible job** with VFP C++ compiler
and VFP advanced -- he has done things that no one would ever have thought
possible, just because he was *convinced* it was possible. Chen has posted
articles about his work for at least 7 years (mainly on Foxite).
The 2017 'Hard to kill' book by Whil Hentzen does not even mention VFP C++
compiler and VFP advanced!!
The whole book should have been dedicated to this invention, to the
incredible opportunities it brings, how we could interest young guys on a
language that we compile ourserves, and tweak in almost all directions as
we want regardless of what large corporations tell us to do. There should
be tens of developers offering Chen to help somehow and enjoying this
revival.
Instead of betting on its strength, this community has accepted its death
sentence as inevitable and is somehow waiting in the death row, just
telling stories about the good old times when we could run a full
accounting package with 1k RAM. on a Commodore bought at Radio Shack.
Still time to lift the head up.
Thierry Nivelet
FoxInCloud
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