Hi Paul,

Good news, if Googles enters the dance, Typescript is on good tracks to become a standard; good job Microsoft, there must have been a lot of negotiations behind the scene.

However, I saw quite a bunch of open source projects in the JavaScript world that were frozen because the author no longer seemed to pay any interest in the pull requests and to improving the project; eg. jQueryUI and jQuery mobile no longer evolves since the main contributors have withdrawn.

Ultimately I mean that open source is only a way for a project to live, under the vital condition that a group of leaders are motivated (and paid) to dedicate enough time to it.

Thierry Nivelet
FoxInCloud
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Le 09/10/2017 à 12:57, Paul Hemans a écrit :
Hi Thierry,
I think you are looking at Typescript from the perspective of the VFP
community which is now quite small, and for us to support it would be a
huge challenge. However, if MS abandoned Typescript, it would be no problem
because Typescript is now an official language at Google.

Speaking of transpilers and so forth, as far as language translations go,
VFP is a challenge because it is ambiguous so it defies parsers. Though
recently by chance I was working on a project to do with chatbots. I was
intrigued because human language is ambiguous, and the chatbot parser did
surprisingly well. The chatbot parser (a Typescript engine) could do VFP
parsing. However, it is irrelevant because I could never find the time or
the funding for a project like that.



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Thierry Nivelet <[email protected]>
wrote:

Le 07/10/2017 à 22:29, Paul Hemans a écrit :

But even if they decided to stop it someone could pick up the code and go
on. With VFP we were simply stuffed. 'Open source' means the source is
available.

Well, theorically true, very difficult practically.

As I mentioned earlier, all major contributors are Microsoft employees or
close to, and have been working on that project for years, probably full
time if you take a close look at the contribution graphs.

Language translaters are a difficult matter that require a strong academic
background and daily involvement in the project.

That's why I can't see how 'simple' users could take over the project if
Microsoft decided to withdraw.

If you fork the project, your contribution can go into the mainstream
releases ONLY if you issue a 'pull request' and if the project manager(s)
accept it and merge it into the main branch. If Microsoft removes resource
from this project without transferring the lead to someone else, and if no
one's forked branch really becomes a leader, there is no real way to gather
contributions into a fruitful manner.

You could theoretically imagine to make your fork become a TypeScriptBis
with its own release cycle and register it into bower, chocolatey, grunt
and the like, however that looks like a ScFi scenario IMO.

Thierry Nivelet
FoxInCloud
Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
http://foxincloud.com/


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