Mike,
You are 100% Correct and in fact the indexes aren't always downloaded in their 
entirety if Rushmore takes effect as only the major Leaf Nodes need to be 
interrogated for fully optimised searches.

The DBF header comes down and is locked briefly before being written back for 
obvious reasons to update the DBF record counts etc. but that is a minor data 
transfer.

Personally I'd get them to check that the file caching is turned OFF on the 
server as the default value was to have it turned on in 2008: Device 
manager/Disk/Properties.

Obviously high tech numpties who think they know it all but actually understand 
very little!

Dave




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From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: 01 December 2017 03:55
To: ProFox <[email protected]>
Subject: Check my wording on this and tell me if I'm right

Client's app performance is dreadfully slow, and I believe the Server is 
largely responsible.  Dealing with a former PITA Corporate tech support team 
who doesn't know jack squat about VFP and is telling me how it works, 
especially on the application that I worked on from 2007 to 2010 and was never 
updated after I left.  They probably can't even spell FoxPro.  VFP9SP1 
application running on client's workstation, using VFP free tables on network 
share folder managed by Stonefield Database Toolkit.  Workstations are Win10 
Pro.  Server is Windows 2008 Standard.
On the server, they've got Windows Defender *AND* an outdated Symantec Endpoint 
on there that hasn't been updated since 2015 
(https://www.screencast.com/t/n5dYLWF0).  I also wanted them to add the 
relevant VFP exclusions in Windows Defender.  They said they were there, and I 
showed here "no they're not."
   (https://www.screencast.com/t/6vioItlZSuu9)


Corporate "engineering" said this, regarding the slowness:  "It's a 32-bit OS 
so it can only utilize 4GB of RAM.  Sym_data folder is almost 600MB, with the 
most common used features being the largest.  The files are locked, transferred 
over the network and then updated and written back."

It's the last part especially that has me fueled up to deliver a smack down.  
Here's what my Draft reply is to my former coworker Tim, who is the Tech who 
sent me the bullshit answer:

************************
As for this comment (and I'm sure you copied it from the Engineering folks, so 
I'm not saying that YOU TIM are incorrect):  "It's a 32-bit OS so it can only 
utilize 4GB of RAM.  Sym_data folder is almost 600MB, with the most common used 
features being the largest.  The files are locked, transferred over the network 
and then updated and written back."
  -- Tim, the OS has nothing to do with it; 32-bit is fine, and Symplicity 
won't utilize that much RAM anyway.  More important that needs correcting is 
this Engineering person's understanding of how the Symplicity application and 
database work; his/her comments about the entire 600MB of files being locked, 
transferred over the network, then updated and written back are wrong.  The 
Symplicity application is a Visual FoxPro 9.0 SP2 application that uses a File 
Server database and unlike Access or some other types like that, it does NOT 
suck over the entire dataset but instead takes the CDX files (which are the 
index
files) to read the relevant data from the network DBFs, only dealing with data 
requested in the application as needed.  Trust me, I know what I'm talking 
about as you know I fixed the Symplicity application's major bugs from 2007 to 
2010, something perhaps your Engineering folks don't know.  And it was never 
updated after I released version 4.0 before I left in 2010.  Nobody at your 
company before or now knows as much about that application and its abilities as 
I do.  That's not arrogance; that's an obvious fact.
************************

So...I am right that the entire 600MB of VFP data files on the network share 
don't come down over the network, but instead the indexes do, right?  I don't 
even think the DBF comes down--all the "locking" occurs on the file server.  
I'm betting heavily on this one.  Am I right?  Was my Access comment right?

(Ok, maybe I was a bit arrogant there, but these dudes need to seriously be 
corrected.)

tia!
--Mike

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