Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> We're supposed to be the good guys..
> We still wear white hat's, at least I believe that we do.
> 
> I don't have a problem with hanging them or shooting them if they're
> guilty..
> But I would have been mad as hell if I had been an innocent locked up for 3
> years without a trial. 
> 

Though you agree with me in this one we do so on different grounds. I'd
like to express my view..

"What, but a SAVAGE, beheads people?"
I can see a beheading is impressive to those who see it. But on accounts
of what I've seen about death penalties (gas chamber, electric chair),
though I will admit only through tv. I would prefer to be beheaded every
time. Less pain, faster.

"What, but a SAVAGE, cuts someone's tongue out?"
I'll agree on this one. It's savage.

"What, but A SAVAGE, straps a bomb to themselves?"
This is lack of technology or money to buy/develop it. What's the
difference between strapping a bomb to yourself or bombing a city from
an airplane of with cannon/tanks etc.? Easy, takes more guts, you must
fight for something you believe in (no mercenary will do it), you must
be willing to give your life for your beliefs. As for the results, a
bomb dropped over a city from an airplane causes more damage, more
civilian deaths. Won't talk about cluster bombs issue and how do they
compare to a 'savage' with bombs strapped to himself.

"What, but a SAVAGE, douses people with kerosene and lights them?"
Is kerosene better or worse than phosphorus? (phosphorus bombs?)

As for "I think we should pull out for a while, let them kill each
other, then go back in." I would ask. Why 'go back in'? I thought the
only reason you stayed in was to avoid their killing each other. Or was
it about oil?



> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
> http://www.tccutlery.com
> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 8:33 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: RE: [OT] Iraq:The hidden story
> 
> He's equating leading a guy around by a leash to a beheading?  
> 
> Come on.
> 
> 
> 
> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Touche...
>> We deserved that one.. 
>>
>>
>> Virgil Bierschwale
>> http://www.tccutlery.com
>> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:17 PM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Iraq:The hidden story
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> This is happening because these people are
>> SAVAGES.
>>> What, but a SAVAGE, beheads people?
>>>
>>> What, but a SAVAGE, cuts someone's tongue out?
>>>
>>> What, but A SAVAGE, straps a bomb to themselves?
>>>
>>> What, but a SAVAGE, douses people with kerosene
>> and lights them?
>>> I think we should pull out for a while, let them
>> kill each other, then
>>> go back in.
>>>
>>>
>> What, but A SAVAGE, puts people into prison without trial or cause?
>> What, but A SAVAGE, kidnaps people from other countries and flies them 
>> to countries where they can be tortured?
>> What, but A SAVAGE, uses dogs on nude prisoners?
>> What, but A SAVAGE, leashes a fellow man like a dog?
>> et cetera
>>
>>
>>> --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let me ask you this.
>>>> If the local's were to turn in the people that
>> are doing all of this 
>>>> bombing and killing OR if the civil war that is
>> going to happen were 
>>>> over, don't you think it would be a different
>> story..
>>>> Sometimes you have to do like those people in the
>> beginning and form 
>>>> neighborhood watches.
>>>> This story tells about a lot of killing, and like
>> you I don't like 
>>>> it, however unlike you I believe that this could
>> be stopped 
>>>> immediately by all the iraq'I people turning on
>> the muslim extremists 
>>>> that are doing all the killing.
>>>>
>>>> This is not happening solely becase we are over
>> there and after we 
>>>> leave, you will see that the civil war will
>> continue until democracy 
>>>> prevail's or until another dictator squash'es the
>> competition.
>>>>
>>>> Virgil Bierschwale
>>>> http://www.tccutlery.com
>>>> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Helio W.
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 7:30 PM
>>>> To: ProFox Email List
>>>> Subject: [OT] Iraq:The hidden story
>>>>
>>>> Iraq: The hidden story
>>>> Channel 4 - The story of what does not get
>> reported in Iraq by the 
>>>> mainstream media.
>>>> *
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/y2f34f*
>>>>
>>>>
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