Virgil, there's an old expression that says "you are what you eat" that comes to mind. While I can't say exactly how true that expression is in the world of food, I will say, with confidence based on a lifetime's observations, that it's very true in the world of information.
It's tempting to get specific and talk, say, about Fox News, but then we might stray into the Netherworld of "my news is better then your news" and accomplish nothing except stir up another dust storm. I've asked you to consider whether the actions taken by our gov't are consistent with what you'd expect of people who truly and sincerely care about this country and the world around us, as a starting point. And then, if you do suspect that the answer to this question might be "no", that their actions are indeed different, that they are obsessed with the ME at our and the rest of the world's expense, then you may very well be interested in doing some digging to discover why this is true. I suggest you start with searching on keywords like Leo Strauss, PNAC, Neocons - and ask yourself how you stand with what you're seeing. If you doubt something, double check it. It seems very much that our greatest problem of the moment is that we keep going back into an endless loop recycling basic disagreements, while the people we should have stopped by now are moving ahead with their agenda. We can't allow ourselves to stay in this rut any longer. Think about the big picture. Look at a globe of the world and ask yourself how that relatively small place we call the ME could possibly be such a Mt Everest of importance in our grand scheme of things. Think about the American Constitution and the spirit and values the framers of it worked so hard to establish, and ask yourself if the people pulling our strings in Washington and the media are even in the same ballpark. Think about the real heroes in our past and ask yourself if any of them would lead us the way we're being led today. Think about the fact that this is a majority Christian country, yet here we are going down a road that Christ himself would never have taken. We've been duped, Virgil, by people who care more about money, power and Israel then what's good for America and the rest of the world. We've spent too much blood, too many years and too many dollars going down the wrong road, and now headed to get worse - and here we are, STILL disagreeing on basics. It's no wonder the agenda we should be united against persists! I'm going to try to switch gears from this endless loop to the basics of a long term solution: 1. The influence of Big Money doesn't belong in our political system, period. We all believe in gov't of/by/for the people, and the time is here to act of this belief. 2. We must protect, feed, water and shape the Internet into a tool that replaces the media barons who have been so influential in leading us down the wrong road. That is, for the long term, there are 2 major matters of consequence: our information supply and our election process. If we can fix these things in time we'll have an entirely different future then what lies ahead if we don't. The short term solution is much harder, because the players are in place, the forces are in motion, and the direction is set. It took the protagonists years to put this package together and get it launched. The days when we could have nipped it in the bud are gone now. What do we do, then? Protest, as clearly and loudly as we can, all of us. Our freedom of speech is about the only means at our disposal now. And when someone tries to lure us back into the endless loop of arguing the basics, ignore him. Bill > > Interesting rumors. > The facts are: > 1. We were attacked by muslim extremists on 9 11. > A. These same extremists denied the accusations, but > later confessed on world wide tv to doing this terrible > thing. 2. Our best minds stated that we had proof that saddam > had wmd and planned on supplying the terrorists with it. 3. > We attacked iraq on the basis of this evidence after first > unsucessfully trying to get the UN to take care of it. > > These are the facts and for your conspiracy theory to have > credibility, all of america would need to be involved in the > conspiracy in order to carry it out. > > So in answer to your questions, nope, I do not see what you > think I should see. > > Should we disband the cia and nsa ? Yes > Should we pull out of all nations that do not want us there ? > Yes What should we do if we see dictators such as n. korea, > etc. and africa that are killing their own citizens ? I say > attack and remove, but we would be damned if we did and > damned if we didn't. > > > > Virgil Bierschwale > http://www.virgilslist.com > http://www.tccutlery.com > http://www.bierschwale.com > http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill > Arnold > > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 12:53 AM > To: 'ProFox Email List' > Subject: RE: [OT] Come the Revolution > > > > Bill's a good guy but he see's a conspiracy behind every thing. > > Been busy, but I wanted to respond to this comment, because I > think it gets to the heart of the matter: > > Question: do you really believe the people who launched that > invasion did so for the benefit of this country and Britain - > or, do we agree that they did it for their own agendas, to > wit: (1) for money and power, and (2) Israel. > > Perhaps you can imagine the Jones Family being happy their > son or daughter dead or in a wheelchair to help Big Money > become richer and more powerful, but I can't. > > One point 2, I've no doubt people will argue: "what's wrong > with defending Israel?", and I'll respond by asking: "then > why wasn't that the stated reason for the invasion in the > first place, so people could have decided to support or not > support the invasion based on the real list of reasons?" It's > the giant deceit of it all that has my knickers all twisted. > If the people who were to do the dirty work were informed of > exactly what they were doing and why, and then still voted to > do it, you could put me down and I wouldn't have too much to say. > > > > Bill > > > > Virgil Bierschwale > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
