What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but correct to hate Islamic 
Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for that matter.  Hitler 
hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate sentiments today are being 
driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME decent.  Compare and 
contrast what happened to the Jewish people under Hitler's Nazi regime, 
and what is happening today against people of the ME who are of Islamic 
Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of the US.

1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that the Jewish people were 
the root of all Germany's problems.
2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required that all Jewish people 
identify themselves by wearing a big, bright, yellow star of David on 
their clothing.  This made it easy to identify the Jewish people for 
discrimination and shunning.
3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership and rights to property 
in the hand of the Jewish people.
4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish people; isolating them in 
designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were stripped of all their 
property and driven into the ghettos with nothing more than the clothes 
on their backs.
5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the extermination of the Jewish 
people from the face of the earth.

I don't think Hitler originally planned an extermination of all Jews.  
In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the German people, went 
through a progression of baby steps; each step lending itself to the 
next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the final solution.  Anyone 
examining the progression of step should have realized early on that the 
final solutions was the destination of Hitler's anti-semitic ship, even 
if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the time know they were on 
a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder and sails had been set, 
and nothing shot of a conscience change in course could have prevented 
the Holocaust.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

>I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a Jew
>Hater.  Holocaust deniers included.
>
>
>--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Ricardo,
>>
>>Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind, if
>>you criticize anything to do with Israel you are a
>>Jew Hater. Likewise were you to criticize GWB's tie
>>then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American
>>Citizen. If you criticicized and are not a US
>>citizen then you're a terrorist.
>>
>>::a
>>
>>PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal either.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>Ricardo Aráoz
>>Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
>>To: ProFox Email List
>>Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to
>>offer own plan
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
>>>      
>>>
>>Jewish
>>    
>>
>>>holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you
>>>      
>>>
>>would
>>    
>>
>>>conveniently forget that.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you perceive
>>the difference?
>>
>>    
>>
>>>--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>>It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>control a commodity
>>>>that
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>the whole world has developed a dependence on.
>>>>>>>Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>the mid 70's, it sent
>>>>shock 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>waves through out the entire world
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>economically
>>    
>>
>>>>speaking. Double 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>digit inflation, double digit unemployment and
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>the deepest economic
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>problems that the U.S. had faced since the
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>great depression. 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>Yup, that really sucked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>You seem to forget that was due to the fact that
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>USA broke 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>the Bretton Woods agreement which stated that
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>dollar was to 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>be tied to gold reserves in USA. The dollar
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>stopped being 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>backed by gold, it started devaluating and the
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>OPEC took action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17,
>>>>        
>>>>
>>1973
>>    
>>
>>>>when the
>>>>Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting
>>>>        
>>>>
>>Countries
>>    
>>
>>>>(OAPEC), consisting
>>>>of the Arab members of Organization of Petroleum
>>>>Exporting
>>>>Countries(OPEC) plus Egypt and Syria, announced
>>>>        
>>>>
>>as a
>>    
>>
>>>>result of the
>>>>ongoing Yom Kippur War, that they would no longer
>>>>ship petroleum to
>>>>nations that had supported Israel in its conflict
>>>>with Syria and Egypt.
>>>>This included the United States and its allies in
>>>>Western Europe.
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
>>>>
>>>>But on October 17, OPEC struck back against the
>>>>        
>>>>
>>West
>>    
>>
>>>>by imposing an oil
>>>>embargo on the U.S., while increasing prices by
>>>>        
>>>>
>>70%
>>    
>>
>>>>to America's Western
>>>>European allies. Overnight, the price of a barrel
>>>>        
>>>>
>>of
>>    
>>
>>>>oil to these
>>>>nations rose from $3 to $5.11. [In January 1974,
>>>>they raised it further
>>>>to $11.65.] The U.S. and the Netherlands, in
>>>>particular, were singled
>>>>out for their support of Israel in the war.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/history/2002/arab.html
>  
>
>>>>The embargo was applied to oil-importing
>>>>        
>>>>
>>countries
>>    
>>
>>>>on a sliding scale
>>>>depending on each country's relationship with
>>>>Israel. The United States,
>>>>the Netherlands, and South Africa were Israel's
>>>>strongest supporters and
>>>>thus bore the brunt of the embargo-a total ban on
>>>>the shipment of Arab
>>>>oil.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/encyclopedia/Oli-Per/Organization-of
>  
>
>>>>-Petroleum-Exporting-Countries-OPEC.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>    
>>
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