I've got a couple of Barettas, a couple of S&W autos and a Glock. The Glock
is the one with the lightest pull. I like the Smiths, but they are .9mms and
I would rather carry a .40 cal.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:39 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT

It seem to me that the trigger pull on the glock may be too light, if a 
DEA agent could accidentally discharge the weapon while trying to 
holster it.   That makes me wonder if a glock might be discharge by an 
accidental trigger pull when aimed at a target of an arrest or during 
other hazardous duty.  I've never fired a glock, but my understanding is 
the glock has a lighter trigger pull than the Beretta, at least on the 
first shot.  The Beretta has a double action first shot (eg full trigger 
pull), but subsequent shots are in a single action lighter trigger pull 
mode (eg the hammer is clocked back and ready to go).

Regards,

LelandJ

john harvey wrote:
> I carry a Glock model 27 .40 cal. It has no safety other than the little
> second trigger. Having said that, if I were to hand it to someone, I would
> lock the slide back and remove the clip. ALL GUNS ARE LOADED, EVEN
UNLOADED
> ONES! 
>
> The Memphis PD had an incident during a training exercise several years
ago
> where one officer shot another. Now they and most area LE agencies use
"red
> handled" guns. Those are guns that have been disabled and the grips are
> painted red. That is the safest route for training on handgun retention or
> disarming someone. If you were doing a demonstration in front of a bunch
of
> people, I would think you would empty the weapon (without discharging) and
> then do the demo!
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:09 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT
>
> The video just goes to show how easily accidents can happen, when you 
> don't have your head in the game.  I assume the agent thought the weapon 
> was unloaded, but evidentially:
>
> 1)  A magazine with live ammo was inserted into the gun.  The DEA agent 
> should have hit the magazine release button to check the status of the 
> magazine before proceeding with the lecture.
> 2)  The slide had been racked back and locked.
> 3)  The slide was then released loading a round into the barrel.
> 4)  If I understand it correctly, a glock does not have a safety and 
> only fires in a double action mode, (eg a full trigger pull is required 
> every time the gun is fired) ,  so somehow the DEA agent managed to pull 
> the trigger while trying to holster the gun.  This is strange because 
> the glock folks say the trigger pull is the safety mechanism.
>
> He was lucky he only injured his foot and pride and nothing more serious.
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>   
>> They let college jocks be DEA agents?  Don't you have
>> to be able to read and write? 
>>
>>
>> --- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> I think I heard that he was an ex-NFL player, or
>>> maybe it was just a college
>>> jock, but either way....
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>> Of Michael Madigan
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:47 PM
>>> To: ProFox Email List
>>> Subject: RE: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT
>>>
>>> Are you sure that he's a DEA Agent and not a
>>> Rastafarian Ganja User?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> This happened a couple of years ago. The latest I
>>>> have heard is he is suing
>>>> some people for making him look stupid! Hahaha
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Kinda
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> reminds me of the wife
>>>> asking, "does this dress make me look fat?" The
>>>> honest answer is NO. It's
>>>> all the fat oozing out of it that makes her look
>>>> fat, and it was this idiot
>>>> who made himself look stupid. There should
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> probably
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> be an IQ test
>>>> administered before allowing someone to even hold
>>>> one!
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>>> Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:24 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT
>>>>
>>>> Whoops, talking about shooting yourself in the
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> foot!
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> <g>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY&NR
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2mvlbh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> LelandJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
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