> Ah, the old trick of the supernaturalist: accept the premise, and > then the conclusions are self-proving. You can do that with anything,
> and prove anything. If you accept the Bible as inerrant fact, then > yes, you can prove that the Earth is 6,000 years old. Ed, while I'm very mindful of what I've learned, I'm unprepared to argue the case. It took Jung a lifetime of study and writing to put together his Collected Works, and any effort to summarize and present it in a meaningful and convincing way in a few emails would be a feat way, way beyond what I'm capable of. What I will say is that the research that led me to Jung and his work began with the idea that I would seek out the best thinkers in history and learn from them, rather then depend on some middle-person practitioner's translation. Indeed, I'm trying real hard not to fall myself into that category. If there is a message in what I'm saying, it's to read what Jung himself said, not what I or others say about him. I think this is a very important point. His gift wasn't just the ability to understand, but to convey that understanding in a very precise way. > > But does he prove the existence of this unconscious, then? Yes, > > absolutely, beyond a doubt. > > As long as the proof requires that "leap of faith" you mention > above, it is no proof. "Leap of faith" in the same sense that science works by formulating hypotheses first, and then proving or disproving, but there has to be a starting point somewhere. Thinking about it, I should have said "benefit of the doubt" instead of "leap if faith", because the cases he built are as concrete as walls, and he did it one brick at a time. I'll note somewhere that he drew heavily on his predecessors and contemporaries, something I really appreciated. > > In fact, the most unfortunate side of this > > is that there are people who use this knowledge to manipulate others, > > such as our "friends" in Hollywood, Madison Ave and Washington. > > There is no requirement to accept the notion of > "psychic energy" in order to explain manipulating the masses. That's true. But like anything else, some become real professional at it. Just look at how duped this whole country is right now. That's the work of professionals. Bill > -- Ed Leafe _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
