Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Monday 14 May 2007 8:56 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> <snip>
>>> The Catholic theologians came to these conclusions by studying not only 
>>> the bible, but other religious books,
>> You mean books from other religions? 
> 
> No, "Catholic" books, "Catholic" saints. There are tons of books and hundreds 
> of saints. Theologians spend their lives on these questions.

Theologians deduct things. But the 'reality' from which they are allowed
to deduce this must be actual books inspired by god. AFAIK the only one
(to catholics of course) that complies would be the bible. As for
'saints' that is a recognition the church gives to a man if it can be
established he performed a couple of miracles and some other requisites.
But the 'saint' condition does not make his writings 'holy' nor part of
dogma. So I ask again, besides the bible, what other catholic (that
means god inspired, certified to be true by religion) books are you
referring to?

> <snip>
> 
>> It is a whole structure of beliefs. If you don't believe a piece then
>> the whole comes down.
> 
> Or if I don't believe that God really, really wants me to sleep with a homo 
> priest right now? It wasn't that bad, really!

Didn't get the joke.

> 
> The honest priests tell you that you are free to believe anything reasonable. 

Reasonable is a tricky word. Who defines the extent of 'reasonable'?
Catholic church says, 'reasonable is what WE define all others are out
of the church'. Ok, they base themselves in the infallibility of the
Pope. In your religion, who defines what 'reasonable' is?

> If your religious background was that nit-picky absolute that you had to 
> believe every tiny detail regardless of how fantastic then I don't blame you 
> for being hostile to it.

Which details am I able to ignore in your view?

> 
> Of course, I was studying theology at a Jesuit college - completed a minor in 
> theology in fact, and I guess they are not all that doctrinaire.

The more the reason for me to ask you. But if you are half a Jesuit your
answers should be more clear and to the point.




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