> > Are you even aware that there is widespread poverty in the US? Do you know > that US poverty is being made even worse by illegal immigration, H1B, > downsizing, "free-market" imports, pension defaults, "buyouts" and a whole > host of other techniques that the suits use to bust labor down to minimum > wage or less? > > The US poor typically work two and three jobs for half of a living. The rest > of their living may made up by credit cards for a while until that builds up > impossible debt. The rich play with the rightful wages of the poor, their > *needs* come from what they swindle the poor out of. They eat the poor > people's dinner. >
I have seen studies which compare poor citizens of the USA to African doctors and in fact the poor in the USA do not come that badly off. The study was in relation to trailer park people in west Virginia and doctors in Congo. . I'll have to dig it up for you. I do not believe the American poor are at all affected by H1B visas, rich American programmers undoubtedly are, but I would argue that prohibitions of H1B visas will have the unintended effect of increasing unemployment and misery right in the USA. I tried to articulate the economic logic of this in an earlier post. And anyway, companies no longer have to park at the parking meters anymore, witness the new Microsoft developer center in Vancouver Canada (which has a friendlier "official" attitude to immigrants). There are only going to be 50,000 H1B visas this year, much less than industry leaders claim they need, so that battle was "won", and the effect should be negligble as programming jobs continue to go unfilled and anyone with any kind of skill and experience should be able to find work. Foxpro programmers may be losing jobs to Java programmers but that is another story. This turmoil and change in the economy with it's requirement to learn new techniques has been going on for 150 years, in many fields, not just software engineering. You cannot blame capitalism for the plight of the poor. If it wasn't for the "fat-cat" capitalist there would be a whole lot more poor people with nothing to eat. Honestly. If anyone interested in reading economics and political texts (Hume, Mill, Von Mises, Hayek, Seldon etc) they can check out free on-line complete works at: http://oll.libertyfund.org/home3/AuthorsAll.php or http://www.econlib.org/ Graham. _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
