On Nov 28, 2007 11:52 AM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Nov 28, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
>
> > Why would I not give a crap about my work?  Sorry but you are far
> > off base
> > there Ed.
>
>        OK, answer this then: if an app you wrote last year stops working
> on
> Vista, how does that affect you? You're long gone from the company,
> so it doesn't affect you in the least. It might even translate into
> more $$ for you if they call you back to make it work.
>
>        Contrast that with Bill's situation, in which he placed all of his
> eggs in the VFP basket. If his app stops working, he loses all his
> income.
>

What is your point?  You buy a house in say San Diego.  Later that year a
fire takes it an you are left with ashes.  I am sorry but that is life.
Should the builder guarantee the home and rebuild if for you for free, or
for the same price you negotiated?

Stuff changes and we all have to roll with it.  It sucks but we can not do
anything about it.  Well I guess you could diversify, oh you did.  :)
Others haven't.


>
> > I disagree with your technology argument as well.  Take java for
> > the past 10
> > + years.
> >
> > Millions of products, sites, applications, etc were written with
> > java.  Some
> > succeeded and others never saw the light of day.  Was it because of
> > the
> > platform?  Probably not.
>
>        You've obviously missed my point. Sun could have pulled Java, or
> refused to update it for new OSs. It certainly hasn't been in their
> interest to do so, but if they had, there would have been nothing
> anyone could have done about it. It's their product, and they own the
> rights to the source code.
>
>        Walking on a high wire without a net is a risk. The fact that you
> haven't fallen off yet does not change the riskiness.
>
> > We work in an industry that changes fast.  If you were a painter
> > I'd say put
> > those oil based paints away we don't have time to wait for it to dry.
>
>        That's very insightful.
>
> > If you are in real estate and you were into flipping houses because
> > you
> > could fix it up and sell it quick the world caught up to you as
> > well.  These
> > things happen.  It is an side of risk that all business has to be
> > aware of.
>
>        Of course, this isn't the risk that we were discussing, but why
> ruin
> a good rant by sticking to the subject?
>

Risk is the morphed context of the subject.  Do you stick with one thing and
hope you out live it's usefulness or do you adapt as flags in the industry
tell you to change?


>
>        The discussion was about investing your livelihood in a product
> that
> someone else controls. The risk being discussed is that the owner of
> that product may choose to abandon or bury it.
>
> > Now why would we as very smart people fail to be aware of it?
>
>        Does that mean that you don't think that Bill or others who are
> sticking with VFP are very smart people?
>

I am saying that if you know you make the best wooden buckets and you fail
to see that everyone is buying "plumbing" then you are doomed.  If you can
still make wooden buckets for those off the beaten path yet now also sell
and service water closets then your probably going to be better off.



>
>        If you are aware of the risk and take it anyway, you can't then
> start whining about lawsuits and "they owe me" when things turn out
> badly.


Yep.  Well you could.  You just have to have a lot of cash to fund your
lawsuit because no attorney would take it on for 40% after fees.


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