On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 07:58:34 -0500, "Ted Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:

> That's interesting. What do you see as missing in IDEs like Komodo or
> Eclipse? These things seem to have thrown in everything including the
> kitchen sink...

Well, I have used Eclipse and it's a fantastic thing for sure, but it's
a general purpose IDE. It's not so much the feature set in terms of code
editing or whatever ... 

For example using the VS 2005 IDE I can create a new web site, drop a
datagrid, formview and SQLDataSource onto the page, set some properties
to connect them all up, press F5 and have a pageable, sortable grid
linked to a form below where I can add/edit/remove items in the backend
database. When I want to position everything I can do it all visually, I
never have to see any HTML and CSS. I can do all the coding for it in C#
and maybe bits of JavaScript.

If I want to add a tier I can generate business objects from the
database and connect all the data controls to those objects instead. I
could even use OLEDB and use VFP as the backend.

Admittedly the HTML generated is probably slightly on the portly side
(to say the least) and it probably means users have to be on at least
IE6 / Firefox 2, and have Javascrip turned on, but I can live with that.

Basically it's the easiest option I could find to produce data-based web
applications without having to know a lot of HTML, CSS and JavaScript. 


-- 
  Alan Bourke
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