Ed Leafe wrote: > On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:58 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account > wrote: > > >> No freakin' way I can compete equally with that >> and continue the regular US standard of living. And that doesn't make >> me lazy either. No American, in their right mind, would want to work >> those kinds of hours for the amount of compensation they get. >> > > Are you saying that Americans are inherently less capable than > others? No. Every educated civilized nation has competent workers (developers in this case).
> Or that we deserve more than others for the same amount of work? > No. We're used to a level of income and standard of living much higher than others. Are we entitled? No, I won't say that; I think we should work to earn our keep and not get free rides, yet at the same time, how can we compete for folks working for 1/10 of the wages and far less living conditions? I don't have the answer. "Buck up and deal with it" isn't a good answer and comes from an ignorant/arrogant person, imo. I wish I had a good answer...and yet I don't. In some ways, you might draw a parallel to the new age of development where experts like you and Ted are forced to compete with script kiddies who get $10/hr. You eluded to this recently, iirc, in you now being in a bigger pond with many more fish who will "work for less." That's a shitty place to be in, yet one we're all headed for eventually I suppose. Retrain, retrain, retrain....that's the IT rollercoaster. The Comments article I posted yesterday mentioned how it's ridiculous how IT recruiters and/or HR posts qualifications for folks using a particular language/technology for 5 years....for one that hasn't even been out for 5 years!! It's a vicious cycle in IT and software development technologies in particular, imo. Where does it stop? The answer (I'm afraid): never. That was the beauty (and yet poor reality) of having my own company for the past 5 years: I could dictate the solution's innards and my clients were very satisfied...they didn't give a shit that it was a VFP based solution. In fact, the solutions of the past 2 years (newly developed ones) were using a MySQL web database, so they were even just as good if not better than browser based solutions, giving them the ability to have a networked app from ANYWHERE....home, remote office, wherever! I'm very proud of those solutions. Yet they're not du-jour in terms of hiring, so unless I have my own company, those skills are just "hobbyist" at best since they're not useful to most employers. Imagine something coming along and basically obviating Dabo....wouldn't you be pissed due to all the investment you've put into it is now of no value? (Cue Bill Arnold's diatribe on the demise of VFP...) _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
