Peter,
As this has been our first "toe in the water" as far as virtualization is
concerned I decided to get a simple 64 bit box with 4 dual core processors
which has cost about £800 in total. Then the 64 bit Virtuozzo software costs
about £1,500 to £2K and depends on the number of processors used. Bear in
mind the new 64bit box was our first 64 bit box and intended as a proof of
concept 

My aim is then to migrate the Virtual server environment onto a new 64 bit
HP dedicated serve box including raid drives etc. as a replacement for our
main 32 bit data servers at the end of next month at the latest and then I
will use the 64 bit box for my own development work. Then I will be running
5 servers on the box, the additional one hosting the VFP data and user files
which will be replicated on a shadow box using Doubletake.

The nice thing is that the migrate onto the new HP kit will be done inside 1
hour as opposed to 2-3 days using the conventional setup of one box per
server. 

To say I am impressed with Virtuozzo is an understatement. I looked into
VMWare - which I use extensively myself for development, but it uses
hardware virtualization so the whole operating system has to be loaded x
times for x servers. The nice thing about Virtuozzo is that is uses software
virtualization which only has one core operating system (Win 2K3) running on
it and then you "spawn" a new operating system front end and only keep one
kernel running. This means that it is very quick and the degradation running
multi O/S's is minimal - the only drawback being that the other OS's have to
be 2K3. 

In the demo we saw at SWSoft who retail Virtuozzo, they had 100 virtual
servers running on one box and the degradation was about 50% in total i.e
half as slow as a single server. Try that using VMWare and you won't get
past 3 virtual servers before the machine grinds to a halt.

I have even run VMWare hosting Linux in a Virtuozzo Virtual Environment with
no problems - which is cool.

Dave Crozier


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Peter Cushing
Sent: 17 January 2008 15:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NF] Windows XP OR Windows Vista ???

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Stephen,
> Well we still have a mixture of 2K and 2K3 servers and at this moment I
> don't envisage upgrading any of them. The 2K servers are completely rock
> solid patched up the last service packs and cut off from updates from
> Microsoft and that is the way I want them to stay.
>
>   
<Snip>
> Virtualization - it makes sense, financially and practically.
>   
Hi Dave,

What hardware do you use to run this and what is the rough cost?

Thanks,

Peter



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