Greeting Ken!

I have several PCs and Servers running various combinations of IDE, SATA and
SCSI HDD units.  My gut tells me the problem you are running into may be one
of a sudden demand for current by one or more HDD units.  Are you letting
any of the HDD units "go to sleep" during periods of non-use?  Keep in mind
there are some HDD units that have that built-in, where an End User can not
(easily) monkey with the sleep/awaken options.

I am thinking you may be trying to use a Power Supply with inadequate
capacity to meet the demand of one or more HDD units suddenly spinning up
from an Asleep State.  Most of my Power Supplies are 400 watt, some are
larger.  I needed to get larger than normal wattage just to make certain I
do not bury a Power Supply with collective high demand from more than one
demand source (motherboard, internal tape drive, HDD, etc.).  The following
is a bit lengthy, but it may be of use to you in this situation.

I did not realize how much impact a HDD or internal tape drive could have on
electrical demand on a Power Supply until I had added a 3rd HDD to a PC that
had a boot IDE HDD, data SCSI HDD, CD/DVD Writer, and an internal tape
drive.  After adding the 3rd IDE HDD for file imaging & backup use I found
the PC was rebooting overnight.  In looking at the system logs I found it
was not a clean reboot, but the bootup occurred soon after the file backup
to tape was scheduled to start.  I had a Belkin UPS connected and used their
Bulldog monitor software to look at the load on the UPS - no problem there.

So I repointed the UPS USB cable to my laptop so I could watch the load on
the UPS during various points of rebooting, starting the tape, etc., using
the Bulldog app on the laptop.  I watched in horror as the load on the UPS
would take some pretty hard initial hits as the PC first started up.  After
it was running the load leveled off significantly (whenever a hard drive or
tape drive first lights up it demands a lot more current than when already
spinning/running).  When I started to do a tape backup the demand would
spike every time the drive began to "shoe shine" back and forth.  And, sure
enough, early into the tape backup the PC simply rebooted, immediately after
I saw yet another spike occur early into the tape backup routine.

The demand was not overloading the UPS, it never hit over 55% load as I
recall.  So I figured the stock Power Supply was just not up to providing
enough juice to all the components when a heavier than normal demand came
along looking for its fair share of current.  I replaced the stock 300 watt
Power Supply with my first 500 watt unit, and the problem was solved.


I hope that helps you out!  BTW, if you do get a larger Power Supply, look
for one with a 3 year warranty or longer.  They cost more than an El Cheapo
run of the mill Power Supply.  But everything in your machine depends on a
reliable power source, so I found it is far better to invest once as opposed
to buy twice.  And, no sense in tossing out the old Power Supply.  You may
need it for test purposes later on, as a "known good" unit in case you have
to trouble shoot a dead PC.


Gil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:23 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [NF] Disk Drives: SASA & EISE
>
>
> Hey - - - - - --- - -
>
> Anybody around this morning?
>
> Hardware question: I'm still having that weird problem with my old
> server box: new drives keep popping the power off, like it has a
> short. Old drives (which draw more power don't). I'm thinking I can
> live without that old machine, as long as I can get some more disk
> capacity. I notice that my development box has 4 slots on the
> motherboard for SATA drives.
>
> Can EIDE and SATA drives coexist on one machine? I don't think there
> will be a power problem. This machine has a 750 watt power supply.
> There are currently 3 EIDE drives -- think that I can add one or two
> more SATA drives??? So far the Googling I have done says "yes," but
> I'm wondering if any of you have done it?
>
> Ken
>
>
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