On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>        I don't see anything here that is any different than the browsers
> themselves, or most any other software, for that matter.
>

Interesting that you don't. I think the browser runtime rendering
engine is pretty well-known and pretty documented. The folks who
designed Java thought long and hard about how to keep it in a sandbox.
The other runtimes and scripting languages: Flash, Flex, Javascript
and probably the Microsoft ones, too have not yet proven to be as well
thought-out. So, I'm not inclined to download executables if I can't
know what they're doing. It's not the Flash player I'm as worried
about, as the content that runs within it. I run Flash when the source
is more trustworthy. I disable it for untrusted pages and nearly
always for ad networks.

When I download an app from a well-known, well-reputed source, I have
some confidence that it's been reviewed and does what it's intended to
do. That's not the same thing as letting random videos starting
playing on a web site I'm visiting when I can't determine if their
payload also includes some scripts.

Documents with scripts are less easy to trust, whether that's Word
documents with macros or HTML Help files or PDFs with embedded
Javascript.

>        So that I'm clear on what you're saying: whenever an exploit is
> found, you refuse to ever use that product?

Well, that would pretty much elminiate computing from my life,
wouldn't it? No reductio ad absurdum here. All products have flaws,
and security is a risk management process, not a black-and-white
feature.  I minimize my use and exercise caution in using products
that may be more harmful than the typical ones: no Vista, minimal
Windows, NoScript plugin in FireFox, etc.

You wouldn't consider running an .exe in Windows sent to you by a
stranger. Why should it be any different because it claims to be a
media file?

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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