Helio Wakasugui wrote:
> Hey, Ricardo... lighten up... this topic is [OT].
>
> Besides... unlike the others, Leland at least sounds like a good christian.
>
> HW
>
>   

I trust so, but in the end it's God's Judgment that will answer your 
question.  I'm sure some of my views regarding organized religion would 
rub some in the Christian communities the wrong way, especially the 
evangelical mega-churches that preach that God will prosper its members 
by  pouring out blessing on them so great they will not be able to 
contain them, or use the church and it's members politically to gain 
advantage and power to reward friends and punish enemies that do not 
strictly adhere to their interpretation of God's word.

Also, do a search on the term "Manifest Destiny" which was introduced in 
America in the early 18 to justify the expansion of the USA from the 
original 13 colonies all the way to the west coast of America by 
annexation of states and territories.  It's a good example of the use of 
God's word to justify and encourage an agenda that really has no basis 
in God's word.  "Manifest Destiny" was a belief that America's expansion 
was by the providence, or will, of God; although, there is nothing I can 
find in God's word regarding a concept of "Manifest Destiny".  God's 
word to me is more about the spiritual nature of man, man's relationship 
with God, and man's salvation and eventual unity with God; not about 
worldly power, government or stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_Destiny

There are many other example I could give, but I don't have time to get 
into them right now.

Regards,

LelandJ

> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Ricardo Araoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hey lads!
>>
>> Last time I checked this was a VFP list. If you want to talk fiction you
>> have "Alice in wonderland Email List" in google groups. There they
>> discuss things like if Superman can survive red kryptonite or not and
>> stuff similar to that and to what you are talking about here.
>> Best wishes!
>>
>>
>>
>> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>>     
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>       
>>>>> Each person's concept of God depends on many influences including
>>>>> interpretation of God's word, the part of God's word receiving the most
>>>>> emphasis, other's teaching of God's word, and each individual's
>>>>> psychological, economical, environmental, religious, and social 
>>>>> backgrounds.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> If you're going by everybody's impression of God... you better hope yours 
>>>> is pretty close to God's impression of himself.  Love is there... so is 
>>>> justice - you might want to mix that in your impression.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Larry Miller
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> God know everything included the real meaning of his word, which God
>>> gave to the world.  Since God knows everything, including the true
>>> meaning of his own word, God does not need religion.  We as humans;
>>> however, are imperfect and we have create religion in an attempt to
>>> understand God, but in interpreting God's word, we have often defined
>>> God in terms of our own needs, desires, agendas, purposes by
>>> intentionally distorting God's word through false interpretation, thus
>>> creating a God in our imagine, rather than a God based on God's word.
>>> This has lead to the formation of many major religions, which include
>>> many denominations within each major religion.
>>>
>>> Our inability to form a consensus  that conforms to the true God, based
>>> on his word, and our inability to define what God truly wants of us
>>> according to his word, has caused contention between religions that
>>> compete for power, trade, money and membership.  The predictable result
>>> is passive and active aggression against any member of a competing
>>> religion/denomination or even holy wars that have lead to the death of
>>> too many people.
>>>
>>> I understand that God's word makes many references to judgment, but we
>>> have often unnecessarily imposed our own imperfect judgment in place of
>>> leaving the judging to God, (eg God's judgment - possessive ).  The
>>> Inquisition's solution to the dilemma was to torture the victim until he
>>> confessed the crime to which he was accused, have the victim repent of
>>> his sins and ask God's forgiveness, and execute the victim by hanging,
>>> disembowelment, burning at the stake, shooting, beheading, or whatever,
>>> thus sending the soul to God as a saved sinner entitled to a glorious
>>> everlasting life.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> LelandJ
>>>
>>>       
>>     
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