Ted Roche wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Vince Teachout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>
> Nah. Just musta had extra caffiene in the Earl Grey after lunch.
> Please don't take it personally.
>   
I tried not too, I was unfortunately still steaming from a prior e-mail, 
also from someone I generally admire and agree with.  :-)
I've been cringing ever since I hit the SEND button.  At least I DID 
clean it up SOME before sending!

> Well, come on, Vince, flamewars are never fun if everyone is
> *reasonable* <g>. I thought I threw in enough <g>. Apparently not. No
> offense intended.
>
>   
I just finished mentioning the <g>s in that message off line to someone 
else, believe it or not.  Just a rotten day, and not feeling well on my 
part.  I apologize for flying off the handle.

>
> I hear ya. I'm an extremist with 12 computers in the house. Well, one
> is Laura's. And we share a couple of the others. And there are
> multiple distros on many of them, and Windows 2000 and XP and OS X,
> too. So, throwing another distro on the fire is just a hobby.
>   
For me, I only have the one laptop, and am not currently in a position 
to get more.  Now that I have virtualbox, though, it is getting a lot 
easier to compare Distros.  I may end up having to make my "choice" 
soon, though -- I just yesterday got a "purple line of doom" on my 
monitor.  When it has its own Internet nickname - you know you're screwed..

>
> It's not a problem, that's the point. Choices are a fact of life, and
> more choices are better, even if they make us "unhappy."
>
>   
This is the part that really confused me.  I honestly didn't think I was 
saying anything against choices in my original post.  I just was saying 
(or trying too) that I understood where Allen was coming from.  I don't 
have the original post in front of me, and the coffee is NOT working 
today, so maybe I failed to be clear.  I do like choices.  I even like 
that there are 360+ distro choices.  It's just slowing my decision 
process down, is all.  And that's just how I, personally, go about 
everything - that damn ol' Virgo "analyize everything to death" trait.  
On the plus side, I have a whole collection of single purpose distro's 
that totally kick ass.  Including one that does nothing at all except 
crack Windows passwords, which I was able to use to the horror and 
gratitude of our local librarian when they got inadvertently locked out 
of their system.  :-)

> I think the problem with our conversation is that I'm such a poor
> communicator that you aren't understanding that I'm agreeing with you.
> Choice is Good. Choice is Hard.
>   

And I'd probably have normally gotten that, too, if I wasn't in such a 
pissy mood today.  Sorry.


> Ooo. I've been out-Pc'd! What do you use to brew it? A ball or a
> strainer or do you make your own bags? I've tried to get Yerba Mate
> working with a ball, but mostly just make a mess.
>   
Ooops.  About to out-PC you again.  I use a gold permanent filter, from 
Harney and Son's (they're located near here)
http://www.harney.com/teaac.html
As for the Yerba Mate..    Uhm...... a gourd and a bombilla.  :-)
(This came up last year - I can't remember what Ed uses, but I do 
remember he outdid me on the Yerba)



> If you decided to standardize on Lindows, I might think that was
> bizarre and might want to ask you why, to understand the criteria of
> your choice.
>   
See, I just misread that the first time, and thought you said YOU 
decided to standardize on Lindows.  I was going to say that was one I 
knocked out of the running right off the bat. I think I should just shut 
down and go home.....

> There's a corollary to the Paradox of Choice, I'd like to nickname it
> the Paralysis of Choice, although I'm willing to bet some clever way
> has already coined that, that says it's better to eat some jelly today
> than no jelly today, 
But in my case, the jelly in the store is pretty, but I DO have jelly 
already back home... :-)

>
> Yeah, like I said. Maybe I need to lay off the extra-caffienated
> beverages after lunch... but my point was that the least acceptable
> choice is not to choose. I know you are not doing that; you're
> evaluating the different distros and trying to pick the ultimate one.
>   

More or less.  I'm trying to pick the one that A) does the most of what 
I want out of the box, and B) that I like working with.  I'll then load 
it with what's missing.  The funny thing is, I was up and running on the 
"perfect" (for me) solution - Suse.  And then Bill moved in, so when 
that box died, Suse was out of the running, and I was back to the 
drawing board.  I came THIS close to using Knoppix, but even with 
working with Bob Patterson on it for a few weeks, it wouldn't connect to 
the Internet on this laptop.  Damn!  (I did install it on my daughter's 
hand-me-down laptop, though - after formatting Windows off!)


>
> One of my fellow volunteers at the LUG is a big Gentoo fan, and will
> gladly explain why, in detail, if you're foolish enough to ask.
>   
Knoppix is Gentoo.  I like it too.  :-)

>> Anyway, I will eventually move to Linux, when I'm ready, and after I've
>> made my own choice, in my own way.  I just won't be stupid enough to
>> mention it on this group, is all
>>     
>
> Too bad. I'd hoped you'd enjoy getting a hard time about it.
>
> Time to get to work, then...
>
>   
Pissy.  Did I mention I was being pissy today?  I was really hoping no 
one would bother to reply to my post.  Sorry. :-)





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