On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Charlie Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No no no. You're missing the point. A charitable organization depends on > "donations" from people to do perform its goals. There is no "profit" > intent (or, at least, there shouldn't be). And by taking large sums of > money as a salary when working for non-profits basically drains the > resources without actually accomplishing any goals. ------------------------------------------------------ The UW is a huge org and politics within it for the breakout of funds issued must be huge. For a leader of that type of .org to not get caught up in it, keep the focus on raising money and making sure the groups that receive it are only in the news for good things should be rewarded. If they took that same leadership to the profit side they would probably receive 2x or maybe 10x in salary/bonus right? My statement on "Why does a profit model determine pay grades? " was under the mindset that you are paid for the job. Just because this company gives it's money away why should you be forced to take some scraps. I think that great leadership should be rewarded. What about you? > Maybe you think there is some way a "really good CEO" can raise tons of > money as compared to a "bad CEO." But from what I've seen, that's not the > case. For non-profits CEO choice isn't nearly as important as finding a > movie star to put out in front of people. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I see it differently. Your proposal is a guarantee for disaster. Forcing quality leadership to choose between income and company style is usually going to make quality side step all types of non profits > As Mike said, when you go work for a non-profit (or not-for-profit), your > mentality should be one of "serving" not "being served" --------------------------- At just in the 7 figure income I think that he is in a service role. Would his vision and skill base be rewarded at a higher level 4-12 mill / year if he stepped up to company on the order of Motorola, or Home Depot? I think yes. > That may be difficult for MS-heads to understand, but there are actually > people out there that want to do things for others and require the absolute > least amount of expense burden on the benefactors (and supporters). Those > are the people you want as your CEOs and leaders of non-profits. ------------------------------------------------------------- If you say so. I want a true leader who can communicate with all level's of the company, and be understood on all those level's as well. I want someone who can surround themselves with key talent that can get more with what they have. To envision how a changing market can open up business opportunities instead of just offshore everything because everyone else is doing that. Now add to that the ability to take revenue and return some of the proceeds back to the community you are in. To create mentoring programs that are for in-house training as well as helping the youth of the community who may be your new work force or your new mangagers. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

