> Is MS still relevant?

Unfortunately, yes.  But on a brighter note, a little less so than before
due to FireFox, Mac and Linux eating (nibbling) out of its trough.

The other day I was chatting with an associate who has been a True Blue M$
fan for years.  He makes a great living setting up, configuring, upgrading,
etc., anything and everything M$.  He made the mistake of asking me how I
like MS Server 2008.  "I don't really know how I like it.  I am not running
it, and don't plan to.", I replied.

I was expecting him to get all over me, but instead he asked what I am doing
for Servers.  I told him I still have a few Server 2003 machines, but have
cut to Linux, first Suse Server, then Ubuntu Server.  He was intrigued as to
why I made that move, so I told him it was not so much the money (MSDN ISV
takes a major part of the sting out there), but more the lack of solution
value when I look at Ubuntu Linux that prevents me from staying with M$
Server OS solutions.

Surprisingly he told me the M$ license fees to himself and his clients are
getting ridiculously high, and has actually been looking to look at Linux
for File, Web, & eMail Server purposes for himself and clients.  He has been
losing bids to other folks who are using Linux for Servers (mostly, not so
much desktops yet).  He is looking at doing the same thing just to get his
pricing competitive by knocking out M$ Server OS expenses.  In the past he
could have avoided making this move, but now things are tight and it is
coming down to business survival.

I did an Info Dump on him (poor bastard), and for once I actually blazed a
trail for him to follow me (Linux), instead of the other way around.  He may
"only" support about 80 small businesses, but if he is looking for
alternative solutions to reduce pricing for client projects, then others
are/will also.  A lot of little nibbles can quickly lead to "Death By 1,000
Cuts" <g>...  Not that I want to see M$ crash and burn (it does that by
itself very nicely already <g>), but I think it is time for M$ to get set
back a few notches with their Greed Grab (yeah, I am still bitter re: the
Terminal Server CAL "duplicate" license fees).

BTW, have I told y'all how much I like my Ubuntu Linux Sever lately?
heh-heh...


Gil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul McNett
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service
> havingproblems?
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>
> Sytze de Boer wrote:
> > But surely someone can find something to abuse MS ?
>
> Is MS still relevant?
>
> Paul
>
>
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