You must enjoy sticking your foot in your mouth over and over again.

"Wealth effects. Inflation redistributes income between borrowers and lenders. 
Suppose you borrow $100,000 for a 30-year mortgage at 7% interest, giving you a 
monthly housepayment of about $665. During the next 30 years, as prices rise, 
that $665 buys less and less. So as a borrower, the real value of your 
housepayment declines. Thus a borrower may gain from high inflation. The lender 
however, receives $665 per month, so the lender loses. If inflation is high 
enough the $239,400 the lender receives in loan and interest repayment over the 
next 30 years ($665 x 12 months x 30 years) will be worth LESS in real terms 
than the $100,000 the borrower receives today. Inflation hurts lenders but 
benefits borrowers, especially if it is unexpected. So the Wall Street banker 
is much more worried about inflation than Joe Average with a mortgage and a car 
payment. "

http://www.oswego.edu/~edunne/200ch7.html


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--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 5:20 PM
> That is not even close to true. Borrowers are better off if
> inflation is
> greater then the interest rate on the loan - otherwise they
> lose. Same
> applies to incomes: if your income rises more than
> inflation then you are
> ahead and vice versa. Simple mathematics really.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 8:36 AM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE
> bottom.
> 
> Most incomes go up quicker in inflationary times.
> 
> It is generally recognized that borrowers gain value in
> inflationary times
> and lenders lose value.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Ricardo Aráoz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > From: Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit
> THE bottom.
> > To: "ProFox Email List"
> <[email protected]>
> > Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 5:53 PM
> > Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
> > > Nicholas,
> > >
> > >   
> > >> Ricardo, you need to understand the concept
> of
> > money.
> > >> It is irrelevant whether the rich have their
> worth
> > in
> > >> cash or other instruments. It is still
> > "money" and is
> > >> directly affected by inflation; everything
> they
> > buy
> > >> including other investment instruments will
> go up
> > >> in price.
> > >>     
> > >
> > > Another feature of inflation is that all of us
> with
> > mortgages or other loans
> > > wind up repaying them in inflated dollars. That
> fact
> > does even out some of
> > > the impact of inflation on both the rich and the
> poor,
> > although the poor
> > > obviously are more severely impacted because of
> the
> > rise in rent, food, and
> > > other goods.
> > >   
> > 
> > Unless your loans are somehow tied to inflation.
> Right? In
> > which case
> > you will loose big. Because your income will not be
> tied to
> > inflation.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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