----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Flight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.


There are a number of assumptions implicit in that scenario. Let's see if
you can identify them. It makes ZERO mention of the wage/inflation
comparison and absurdly assumes they are equal. History shows that in times
of high inflation (eg 80s/90s) wages failed to keep up with inflation. It
also makes ZERO mention of the asset price change over time once again
making the infantile assumption that the asset appreciates over time at the
same rate as the interest rate. One would have thought the current financial
crisis would have made you loathe to quote this garbage. (Yes I know it is a
text book - that doesn't stop it from being simplistic or downright wrong).
The current American economy has high-ish inflation but at the same time it
has plummeting house prices. You don't see anyone boasting about how
borrowers are being benefited. And at the same time, wage rises are failing
to keep up with inflation and the next year wil be even worse.

And to repeat a basic tenet of borrowing is that you 'lose' if the interest
rate exceeds the rate of appreciation of the asset (inflation).

Economics is barely a science. Current events are disproving much of their
'theory'.


Geoff,
You are continuously expanding the model to make your point. Stick to the 
original concept of someone borrowing money at some fixed interest rate. If 
you want the model to run over all kinds of events following this loan then 
go ahead but it doesn't change the original facts. The borrower always makes 
out better in inflation on that loan. Whatever happens afterwards has no 
bearing on it. In fact how can all these following events you mention be 
written into the loan contract; no one can predict the future that 
precisely. 



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