> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Adam Buckland > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:02 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: RE: [OT] Mark Your Calendars: The French Are Right > > Sorry Bob. My observation was that he did not kiss, yup very badly > advised on both the protocol and gift front, but he did not as you > state > kiss the King, just a load of arses! >
It's plain his head is bowing in the direction of the King's outstretched hand, but from the camera shot you actually can't see the King's hand through Obama's arse, so the point about the kiss is technically debatable. The bow is not debatable and it's in the same category as the kiss. Shocking, stupid, wrong. And consequential on levels few appreciate. Sarkozy actually laughs out loud when he sees it. Abdullah's expression is also palpable. He was not badly advised... the protocol is well established and there is no excuse whatsoever for it: but this is actually a very consistent thing for him to do, all things we know about him considered. This was his decision. It was a willful bow, for Obama probably a meaningful bow. He did NOT bow to the Queen of England, not once. He gave her an iPod with his speeches on it. I'd love to know what he gave the Saudi King, besides public subservience. As with the sweeping grab of power from the private sector in which he is engaged, there is something deeper going on here. It's not just some stuff he's doing 'cause his advisors told him to do it. This wasn't a translation blunder like Clinton's "Overcharge!" button. I still can't believe how blind to the obvious most people are is about this guy. - Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Bob Calco > Sent: 07 April 2009 12:46 > To: 'ProFox Email List' > Subject: RE: [OT] Mark Your Calendars: The French Are Right > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Adam Buckland > > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 2:21 AM > > To: ProFox Email List > > Subject: RE: [OT] Mark Your Calendars: The French Are Right > > > > Bob, bow yes, kiss no... > > > > > > But no one did the research for him in any event viz: > > > > http://bit.ly/ZxXIl > > - - - > In a shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate, President Obama > bowed to Saudi King Abdullah at the Group of 20 summit in London last > week. > > Mr. Obama later said in Strasbourg, France, "We have to change our > behavior > in showing the Muslim world greater respect." Symbolism is important in > world affairs. By bending over to show greater respect to Islam, the > U.S. > president belittled the power and independence of the United States. > > The bow was an extraordinary protocol violation. Such an act is a > traditional obeisance befitting a king's subjects, not his peer. There > is no > precedent for U.S. presidents bowing to Saudi or any other royals. > Former > President Franklin D. Roosevelt shook hands with Saudi King Abdulaziz > in > February 1945. Granted, Mr. Roosevelt was wheelchair-bound, but former > President Dwight D. Eisenhower shook hands when he first met King Saud > in > January 1957. Mr. Obama's bow to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques > does > not help his image with those who believe he is secretly a Muslim, and > why > he chose to bow only to the Saudi King and not to any other royals > remains > unexplained. > > No Americans of any station are required to bow to royalty. It is one > of > the > pillars of American exceptionalism that our country rejected > traditional > caste divisions. Article I Section 9 of the Constitution forbids titles > of > nobility and stipulates that no officeholder or government employee may > "accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind > whatever, > from any king, prince, or foreign state" without the consent of > Congress. > Judith Martin wrote in her Miss Manners column in 2001 that bowing "is > not > an ordinary bit of foreign etiquette one might adopt out of courtesy > when > traveling. ... Americans do not properly bow to any royalty. We show > respect > for other countries' leaders the same way we do to our own." > > Press outlets have been conspicuously silent on Mr. Obama's bow. > Compare > this to the New York Times' reaction when former President Bill Clinton > inclined a bit too far when meeting Japanese Emperor Akihito in 1994. > According to the Gray Lady, "The image on the South Lawn was indelible: > an > obsequent president, and the Emperor of Japan." Former President George > W. > Bush received thorough press attention after being photographed holding > hands with then-Crown Prince Abdullah in 2005. "It clearly strikes a > nerve," > CBS News reported, while David Letterman satirized Mr. Bush as > "officially > the gayest president since Lincoln." These two cases were tame compared > to > Mr. Obama's full-out genuflection, which makes us wonder why it is not > worthy of comment. > > Mr. Obama is proving that one can be elected president without knowing > how > to behave presidentially. His servile gesture was fully fitting with > the > tone of his humility tour of Europe. In his eagerness to be loved > personally, the president has lost sight of the fact that the leader of > the > free world also must be respected. > - - - > > Sorry Adam but he cannot claim ignorance on this one. > > - Bob > > > > > Saudi King Bans Kissing of His Hand > > > > September 12, 2005 > > > > The new Saudi king has ordered citizens not to kiss his hand, saying > > the > > traditional gesture of respect is degrading and violates Islam. > > > > "Kissing hands is alien to our values and morals, and is not accepted > > by > > free and noble souls," Abdullah told a delegation from Baha, in > > southwest Saudi Arabia, which came to the royal palace to offer > > congratulations on his accession. "It also leads to bowing, which is > a > > violation of God's law. The faithful bow to no one but God." > > > > http://articles.latimes.com/2005/sep/12/world/fg-briefs12 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Bob Calco > > Sent: 07 April 2009 01:55 > > > > He bowed down to and kissed the hand of the King of Saudi Arabia. > > > > But he is NOT a Muslim. Repeat: Barack. Hussein. Obama. Not a Muslim. > > > > - Bob > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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