> well said. i think bob, that you have lost perspective so badly that > perhaps > you need a little help on that. Actually, if I were to forget any sense of historical or theological perspective, then I might then be able to look at everything that's going on with a kind of nonchalance that most people do.
It's looking at things in light of a historical and theological perspective that allows me to interpret what's really going on, or at least give me a deeper frame of reference for understanding it, while most people sit back and yawn, comparing things to the last 8 years at most, and assuming life will keep on going the way they're used to it going, more or less. In reality, some very consequential things are happening, choices are being made at the highest levels, that will make matters far worse than most people think, certainly worse than they already are, on a bunch of levels. Shocking, unthinkable decisions, under the pretense that they're being forced by a bad deck of cards to make them, when in fact, they are merely using the "crisis" and any number of new crises they can manufacture to push an agenda that is NOT what they say it is publicly, not even close. Obviously I was no Clinton fan, I wasn't even really all that enamored of Bush, though I tended to defend him for the same reasons people of any political persuasion tend to defend "their people"--- but Obama, because of his murky but plainly decipherable history, not to mention the ease with which he dismisses opposing viewpoints and the outright dishonesty of many of his proclamations, is a unique case for me. He's the first politician to come along and raise my spiritual hackles to such a level where I cannot take the lighthearted attitude toward him that I'd much prefer to take. In large measure it's as much caused by the strangely adoring way people view him that is as unsettling as what he does or how he views himself. I could always joke about Clinton and at the end of the day was relieved to discover he was more of a self-gratifying pragmatist than an ideologue. Hillary and Obama are another matter -- and the latter is by far more ideological and I even venture to say more narcissistic. Either one in the White House was a nightmare to contemplate -- but through a cruel twist of fate we actually have both now running our government. > i see the same thing here when some > people > interpret every single thing our prime minister does in a sinister and > unconstitutional manner. Funny, you were in that crowd when Bush was president, and I was telling people to chill. Some of this is certainly that kind of thing, as I alluded to above, but each new president brings some unique threats to the table, about which people need to be vigilant. In Obama's case, they are Legion, and few people appreciate their significance. Moreover, the things he's doing really are unconstitutional. I mean fundamentally so, not even close to being constitutional. But our government has been so unmoored from any notion of republican self-government and any hint of a relation to its former ideals -- corrupted, yes, by Republicans and Democrats alike -- that nobody really cares, and for this reason, they don't see what's coming next. It's a bit unnerving at times, and yes, I do need a vacation. :) > it is as if you believe the man is totally > evil and > is surrounded by totally evil people, supported by a totally evil media > and > backed by a totally subservient and evil supreme court. I believe inside he is a human being like you or me. Yes, I believe God can use him to a good purpose---He has a long history of using very unlikely vessels for good. Even people like you and me. Pharoahs and shepherd boys, slaves and prophets, murderers and saints. But I do believe his life, indeed his very identity, is based on some very basic and very disturbing and irrefutable lies. These go way beyond charges like draft dodging or hiding DUIs or even merely being stupid or a serial flip-flopper---the standard fare in our politics. Obama's past is a total enigma---because all we have to go on are his (self-promotional) memoirs and a lot of rhetoric about the future. His worldview -- if we may be permitted to factor in the people we KNOW he's chosen to work with and even be mentored by -- is NOT what is advertised. He has gotten away with a shocking lack of real scrutiny, scrutiny which from the most fundamental aspects of his life's story pose all kinds of conundrums to the objective eye. The questions that were swatted away during the election are proving prescient. His current behaviors only make sense through a prism that considers the possible answers to those questions. > on rense.com > that > might fly. in the real world, inhabited by experienced people who have > seen > and heard it all before, it doesnt. Sigh. This is why you and I don't click, despite being on the same side of eternity. You can't think outside of a certain narrowly defined social-affirmation box, and I apparently can't even get near it, let alone in it. We have no idea how to talk to each other, so we do the usual thing of either a nice ad hominem or a subtle dig. I don't give two hoots for what some self-described "experienced" people think. As if I have no experience, or have not labored to come to the conclusions I have after deep analysis and weighing of evidence, or have no right to a view that isn't socially popular. I could care less because what is popular and what is true are very often two completely different things. You yourself know this, but for some reason you always defer to this mythical, in-the-know group who of course, like you, would never think such things as (fill-in-the-blank). - Bob _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
