The amount of fraud and deception most people are willingly accepting to let this man be their "ruler" is astounding. It's quite bizarre. Some people think its part of a longer trend of people getting accustomed to the idea that the president is some kind of super-man role:
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=140829 68 But if that were true you'd expect better scrutiny of would-be messiahs than we got last year, which was simply embarrassing. - Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Michael Madigan > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:15 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: RE: [OT] Dueling Certs > > It will prove that he is lying about his background. > > This clown is being touted as having an IQ in the stratosphere. I just > don't see it and we don't have the SAT scores and grades to prove it. > Why not? Wouldn't he be proud to show them off if they were "in the > stratosphere". > > It's all smoke and mirrors. > > > > --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Adam Buckland <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Adam Buckland <[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: [OT] Dueling Certs > > To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 10:39 AM > > "WND has reported that among the > > documentation not yet available for Obama includes his > > kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his > > Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, > > his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his > > Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the > > University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, > > his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his > > Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, > > and his adoption records." > > > > > > And bar being nosey absolutely none of these need to be > > released unless he particularly wants to... FFS who gives a > > sh1t what his kindergarten records show and whether he has > > been baptised... It makes not one iota of difference. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Michael Madigan > > Sent: 03 August 2009 14:57 > > To: ProFox Email List > > Subject: Re: [OT] Dueling Certs > > > > Is there any penalty for filing a forgery? Does the mere > > fact that he's filing in a court of law make it more > > believable? > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Bob Calco <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > From: Bob Calco <[email protected]> > > Subject: [OT] Dueling Certs > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > > Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 9:49 AM > > > > http://bit.ly/AKRtu > > > > - - - > > WASHINGTON - California attorney Orly Taitz, who has filed > > a number of > > lawsuits demanding proof of Barack Obama's eligibility to > > serve as > > president, has released a copy of what purports to be a > > Kenyan certification > > of birth and has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court > > for its > > authentication. > > > > ... > > > > Last week, a counterfeit document purporting to be Obama's > > Kenyan birth > > certificate made the rounds of the Internet, but was > > quickly determined to > > be fraudulent. The new document released by Taitz bears > > none of the obvious > > traits of a hoax. > > > > Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous > > source who doesn't > > want his name known because "he's afraid for his life." > > > > Taitz's motion, filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court > > for the Central > > District of California, requests the purported evidence of > > Obama's birth - > > both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not > > yet obtained - be > > preserved from destruction, asks for permission to legally > > request documents > > from Kenya and seeks a subpoena for deposition from > > Secretary of State > > Hillary Clinton. > > > > "I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited > > discovery, which > > would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even > > before Obama and the > > government responds," Taitz told WND. "I am asking the > > judge to give me the > > power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and > > to require a > > deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to > > authenticate [the > > birth certificate]. > > > > "I'm forcing the issue, where Obama will have to respond," > > she said. > > > > "Before, they said, 'You don't have anything backing your > > claims,'" Taitz > > explained. "Now I have something. In fact, I have posted on > > the Internet > > more than Obama has. My birth certificate actually has > > signatures." > > - - - > > > > Well, this one looks more authentic than the one Obama > > posted on the > > Internet. > > > > We'll see. I didn't originally think much of the birth > > certificate issue -- > > the whole thing being rather counterintuitive, based on > > personal experience. > > But, there are reasons for countermeasures against > > forgeries and such, > > people do counterfeit such things, and the fact he simply > > refuses to release > > his real one, as opposed to this "certification of live > > birth" which Hawaii > > doesn't even recognize as primary evidence of residency, > > and which is > > clearly a modern computer print out, has had me scratching > > my head. > > > > What a mess if it turns out to be true that he really was > > born in Kenya, is > > all I can say. 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