On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:40 AM, James Roark(The Dogstar Group)<[email protected]> wrote: > Pete Theisen wrote: >> Philip Borkholder wrote: >> >>> "attempted killing" >>> please Pete. >>> Take your conspiracy theories to the courts, not the health coverage debate. >>> > Sadly I have just returned from Ft. Lauderdale, Fl after 4 days of > looking after my mother, 86, with advanced Alzheimer's. Several > discussions with her doctor resulted in a conversation in which he > stated that the insurance company's and Medicare are already promoting > "Passive Medication" of the elderly that no longer can provide any > positive (I.E. Tax money). "Passive Medication" is defined and basically > not doing anything at all and letting nature takes it course. Kinda like > "Plausable deniability" > He will be leaving the health care system this coming January as is > several of his friends, they just cannot allow themselves to be a part > of this system anymore. > They took an oath to save lives not to allow them to be taken. This is > now - without any kind of "Reform". > I'm 67 and am beginning to become fearful for my life in the future. If > you all would consider one thing.... As you get advanced in age, the > laws you allow to affect us will also effect you. And by that time they > will probably be even more 'advanced'. Once you have ceased to be > productive (I.E. pay taxes) you may also just cease... -------------------------------
This gets real sticky and each patient or case has it's own merits. At a group meeting last night one of they guys spoke about an old friend of his that has ALS or Lou Gehrig's Disease. That would be a worse case scenario where today there is no good route at all. OTOH you have a situation where someone might have a better life if they had double knee replacement but they are also 80+ with other semi large looming health problems. Do you think that the time in recovery from the major surgery is worth the benefit? It is a time and money equation and today we may be more focused on looking at just the money side, forgetting the time the patient needs to get back. My mom had a huge mass taken from a chamber of her heart 3 years ago and it took her a long time to get over that. Many months is my point. If she didn't have it she would have experienced either a clot or a stroke depending on which direction the separated piece traveled. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer SQL Server DBA Web and Winform Development Independent Contractor Memphis TN 901.246-0159 _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

