Bob,

You are correct.  I went to the New York Times website - I suspect that the
"times" he referred to.  So I sent him a link to their article on "Hacked
EMail".

We will see...

Carl


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Publius Maximus
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Oops! Climate Change Data Dumped

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Carl Lindner <[email protected]> wrote:
> In classic Ricardo style, if you are not intelligent and educated enough
> to express your thoughts in a few paragraphs then you are not worthy of
> the time I'd spend reading you.,so I just didn't read it, please try
> again :)
>
> Once again Ricardo, you are one mucho tough hombre!  Ok, Ricardo how about
> this - a little dated - 2 days ago....

Carl:

There is a reason he mentioned the Old Grey Lady as his oracle of
truth, and not, for example, an actual organ of journalistic
integrity.

Ricardo's a victim of modern deconstructionism, where everything is
political and everything is personal and so what matters is not actual
reality, but constructed reality---i.e., the "narrative".

I've never known anyone who relies on the NYT for his "source of
truth" to live anywhere but in the universe of unreality. So,
appealing to information presented in the last bastion of active
journalism in Western civilization is not likely to sway our latin
playboy.

- Publius

>
>
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703499404574559630382048494.ht
> ml
>
> Title: "Rigging a Climate Consensus"
> Subtitle: "About those emails and peer review.
>
> The climatologists at the center of the leaked email and document scandal
> have taken the line that it is all much ado about nothing. Yes, the
wording
> of their messages was unfortunate, but they insist this in no way
undermines
> the underlying science. They're ignoring the damage they've done to public
> confidence in the arbiters of climate science.
>
> "What they've done is search through stolen personal emails-confidential
> between colleagues who often speak in a language they understand and is
> often foreign to the outside world," Penn State's Michael Mann told
Reuters
> Wednesday. Mr. Mann added that this has made "something innocent into
> something nefarious."
>
> The Australian Antarctic research station Casey, where scientists study
the
> effects of climate change.
> .Phil Jones, director of the University of East Anglia's Climate Research
> Unit, from which the emails were lifted, is singing from the same climate
> hymnal. "My colleagues and I accept that some of the published emails do
not
> read well. I regret any upset or confusion caused as a result. Some were
> clearly written in the heat of the moment, others use colloquialisms
> frequently used between close colleagues," he said this week.
>
> We don't doubt that Mr. Jones would have phrased his emails differently if
> he expected them to end up in the newspaper. He's right that it doesn't
look
> good that his May 2008 email to Mr. Mann regarding the U.N.'s Fourth
> Assessment Report said "Mike, Can you delete any emails you may have had
> with Keith re AR4?" Mr. Mann says he didn't delete any such emails, but
the
> point is that Mr. Jones wanted them hidden.
>
> Don't you just love "foreign to the outside world".  I am very impressed
> that he uses that big word "nefarious".
>
> So, what do you think Ricardo?
>
> Carl
>
>

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