Agreed.. This is what I think of this stuff
http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=7057 Virgil Bierschwale http://www.VetsFIndingVets.org http://www.KeepAmericaAtWork.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of geoff Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:06 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] House to pass bill... without voting on it? And this is the political process you tout as the world's best and try to impose on others? Passing legislation without a vote? I think I will stay with the Australian democratic model that is actually democratic in the genuine sense of the word. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Publius Maximus Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 8:57 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: [OT] House to pass bill... without voting on it? http://bit.ly/be6OhM - - - After laying the groundwork for a decisive vote this week on the Senate's health-care bill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi suggested Monday that she might attempt to pass the measure without having members vote on it. Instead, Pelosi (D-Calif.) would rely on a procedural sleight of hand: The House would vote on a more popular package of fixes to the Senate bill; under the House rule for that vote, passage would signify that lawmakers "deem" the health-care bill to be passed. The tactic -- known as a "self-executing rule" or a "deem and pass" -- has been commonly used, although never to pass legislation as momentous as the $875 billion health-care bill. It is one of three options that Pelosi said she is considering for a late-week House vote, but she added that she prefers it because it would politically protect lawmakers who are reluctant to publicly support the measure. "It's more insider and process-oriented than most people want to know," the speaker said in a roundtable discussion with bloggers Monday. "But I like it," she said, "because people don't have to vote on the Senate bill." - - - What an embarrassing farce of a process. "It was a nice Republic, while it lasted." - Publius -- "It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country, under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful and vigilant performance of the trust." [Federalist Papers #59] [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1858d518dd234c1f9fa7d90830555...@stanpc ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
