I'm not so sure, but to give you credit, Mitch Gurney and Robert Reich
have persuaded me that health care change is necessary, but even they
have concerns which robert reich issued today in this short article.
A Worried Postscript to the House Health Care Bill
<http://robertreich.org/post/459007965>
Nothing that's legislated is perfect and in my view the good that will
come from passing health care legislation outweighs the bad, but be
warned: the pending House bill (that will go to the Senate for a
"reconcilation" vote) does not repeal the antitrust exemption for health
insurers, nor does it contain a public insurance option. It thereby will
allow health insurers to continue to consolidate into even larger
entities, gain as much market power as they can, and charge ever higher
prices. Yet Americans will be required to buy health insurance from
them. Assuming the bill becomes law, this dissonance spells trouble. It
will have to be addressed before 2014, when the bill takes effect.
On 3/19/2010 10:56 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> I believe the American people, by and large, want and need reform in
> health care. The Republican attack machine, that puts big business and
> its management, and the health care industry ahead of the best interest
> of the country and ordinary Americans appears to have successfully
> scared many Americans into not supporting it with misinformation.
>
> There appears to have been a mass media campaign, financed by the health
> care industry and stroked by the major TV networks and media airways and
> other outlets to discredit health care reform.
>
> The idea that ordinary Americans do not want Universal Health Care seems
> to be way overstated to me, or outright untrue.
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>
> On 03/19/2010 08:37 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
>
>> Passing a bill that the people do not want without a vote is in the best
>> interest of the country?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® Smartphone by WCW
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"<[email protected]>
>> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:19:10
>> To: ProFox Email List<[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Impeach the President
>>
>> The information you provide is cherry picked and spun, (eg twisted), to
>> spread fear; an extremely contagious disease. Fear is the weapon of
>> choice of the Republican party, that uses it for political gain and power.
>>
>> Hitler and Stalin also used fear very effectively, but in the end truth
>> trumps fear, and actions speak louder than words, especially words used
>> to foster fear, uncertainty and doubt, where none really exists. LOL
>> The actions of President Obama, and his administration, clearly indicate
>> they are working very hard to protect the best interest of the country
>> and the American people, much to the chagrin of Republicans.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>>
>> On 03/19/2010 06:22 PM, Publius Maximus wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The history of Soviet Russia, including the Bolshevik revolution,
>>>> Marxist Socialism and the Communist party, has nothing to do with
>>>> President Obama and his administration who believe strongly in Democracy
>>>> under the USA Constitution and Bill of Rights.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> LOL, then please kindly explain why:
>>>
>>> * Obama's "green jobs" czar Van Jones founded STORM, an openly
>>> communist revolutionary movement, in the mid-nineties, and yet Valerie
>>> Jarrett, Obama's closest adviser, lauds Jones open as precisely the
>>> kind of person they're looking for in the new administration.
>>>
>>> * Obama's Communication Director, Anita Dunn, lists Mao Tse Tung as
>>> one of her top two political philosophers during a high school
>>> graduation ceremony last year.
>>>
>>> * Obama's "Diversity Czar" Mark Lloyd openly praised Hugo Chavez and
>>> his "revolution" in Venezuela (an openly "socialist" and indeed
>>> "communist" revolution).
>>>
>>> * Obama's "guru" is the Marxist professor Saul Alinsky (under whom
>>> Hillary! also trained incidentally), coiner of the term "community
>>> organizer" and author of "Rules for Radicals," a leftist handbook akin
>>> to Machiavelli's The Prince for destroying America's middle class and
>>> ushering in a groovy new era of socialism.
>>>
>>> * Obama was a member of the socialist party in Chicago before he
>>> entered politics "officially" as a "liberal Democrat".
>>>
>>> * Obama in a 2003 radio interview described the US Constitution as
>>> "fundamentally flawed to this day," and bemoaned the fact that it was
>>> in his words a "negative" contract, describing only what the
>>> government cannot do TO you, instead of (as he preferred) what it
>>> "MUST" do "ON YOUR BEHALF".
>>>
>>> I have a *very* long list of such observations. Please, start with these.
>>>
>>> - Publius
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Perhaps a little history is in order. There was a documentary released
>>>> recently called "The Soviet Story". The link below is the youtube
>>>> version of the documentary broken down into 9 parts. Warning - some of
>>>> the scenes are disturbing.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?174052-The-Soviet-Story
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yd9pcye
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> LelandJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/19/2010 03:25 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like the Communists finally won. People let their guard down and
>>>>> now we have a Marxist as president.
>>>>>
>>>>> To think that the founding fathers risked hanging from a rope to give us
>>>>> freedom and liberty and we just sit here and let the Bolsheviks take over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Disgraceful
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Fri, 3/19/10, Nicholas Geti<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Nicholas Geti<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] Impeach the President
>>>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 11:01 AM
>>>>>> It is indeed a sad day for our
>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Publius Maximus"<[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:52 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [OT] Impeach the President
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/drKQFd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>>> The Democrats are assaulting the very pillars of our
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> democracy. As the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> debate on Obamacare reaches the long, painful end,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> House Speaker Nancy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pelosi is confronting a political nightmare. She may
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> not have the 216
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> votes necessary to pass the Senate's health care bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> in the House.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hence, Mrs. Pelosi and her congressional Democratic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> allies are
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seriously considering using a procedural ruse to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> circumvent the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> traditional constitutional process. Led by Rep. Louise
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> M. Slaughter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New York Democrat and chairman of the House Rules
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Committee, the new
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> plan - called the "Slaughter Solution" - is not to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> pass the Senate
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> version on an up-or-down vote. Rather, it is to have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the House "deem"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that the legislation was passed and then have members
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> vote directly on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a series of "sidecar" amendments to fix the things it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> does not like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Slaughter Solution is a dagger aimed at the heart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> of our system of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> checks and balances. It would enable the Democrats to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> establish an
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ominous precedent: The lawmaking process can be rigged
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> to ensure the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> passage of any legislation without democratic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> accountability or even a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> congressional majority. It is the road to a soft
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> tyranny. James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Madison must be turning in his grave.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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