I bet you drink about 6 diet cokes every evening don't you? Or koolaide.. This is german koolade
helps you to deal with seeing your world sent offshore and watching your friends and neighbors lose everything.. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I have a feeling this is just the eye of the hurricane and history will show this as being worse then the great depression. a guy read my blog, or a comment a long time ago. believe his name was brad zollone or something like that. his comment was that the next few years are going to be very rocky, so lets look at it. I'm virtually out of work, so apparently are you and even pete. from what I gather ed left self employment for a sweeter offer and possibly because the work for independents was drying up. most of the independents (builders, etc., not software) have seen their work dry up down here in central texas The pecking order to me seems to be, those like you and me that were making in excess of 75,000 a year with no time were hiring all our work done such as pool service, yard mowing, etc.. this kept the independents going. now that we are no longer working, the independents work is drying up which means our towns, etc. will see their sales tax, etc. halved in a few years if things don't turn around. When this happens the town governments will be shut down because people cannot work for free or iou's. I know a lot don't believe it will happen, but if you've ever read mish's global economic analysis, you will realize that its already happening to a lot of our biggest cities.. and all this because people do not want to come to grip with the fact that sending our jobs offshore and offering h1'bs over here a way not to pay taxes is destroying the funds necessary to keep our country running, so yeah, a few beers a night that while trying to ponder the meaning of life is not unacceptable to me. Besides as Ed can probably tell you if he's been in san antonio for very long, it is the national pasttime down in this part of the country. On 4/8/2010 3:19 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > 9 beers a day sounds like a lot, doesn't it? > > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OT] That word again! >> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> >> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 1:38 PM >> naw, probably 6 to 9 a day depending >> on whether company shows up to visit. >> lets see, 180 per month. >> say about 2 cases per week.. >> >> case of beer down here is 24 bucks for miller lite. >> every once in awhile you can find it for 15 and I don't >> like the cheap >> stuff.. >> Think I'm going to have to get steven to lay out the beer >> making >> routines for me as I might need to start making my own and >> growing a >> garden and some chickens if listening to ya'lls >> descriptions of your >> wages for this past year are any indication.. >> >> you destress your way and I'll destress mine<grin> >> beer, bbq and music with friends. >> The modern day happy hour at home instead of at the pub.. >> >> Things keep up like they're going, we're going to be like >> the russians >> in the movies that destressed with vodka.. >> >> On 4/8/2010 11:10 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: >> >>> Magic Jack has become quite usable now, that's $29.00 >>> >> a year. If you have a scanner, you can have an in >> comming fax account for about $20.00 a year through >> maxemail.com and you can fax out of magic jack, or fax from >> email at 5 cents a page through maxemail.com >> >>> That should save you some real money. >>> >>> $50.00 a week for beer? 4 cases a week? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [OT] That word again! >>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> >>>> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 11:46 AM >>>> me too... >>>> it costs me about: >>>> 200 per month for dsl, fax, cell phone (recently >>>> >> cut that >> >>>> in half) >>>> 150 per month on average for electricity >>>> 500 per year for propane >>>> 50 per week for groceries, add another 50 for beer >>>> >> to >> >>>> destress. >>>> >>>> Thats about as low as you can go, but I no longer >>>> >> have a >> >>>> car which is >>>> why I try and focus on things that I could do from >>>> >> here, >> >>>> but haven't >>>> seen any of that in awhile. >>>> >>>> One of the project managers that I worked with in >>>> >> vegas now >> >>>> works for >>>> rackspace in san antonio so I'm glad it hasn't >>>> >> happened to >> >>>> everybody. >>>> >>>> Trust me, the things I write about on my site are >>>> >> real, >> >>>> they are >>>> happening and in time if we can't stand the >>>> >> corporations >> >>>> from sending >>>> our jobs offshore, all of us will be bankrupt >>>> >> including our >> >>>> towns, >>>> counties, and states. >>>> >>>> On 4/8/2010 10:41 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I literally made almost no money this >>>>> >> year. I >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> spent the year renovating my mom's house while she >>>> >> lives in >> >>>> a rental. I made some money by selling some >>>> >> old stuff >> >>>> on ebay that I wasn't using any more. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I feel sorry for the people with kids who >>>>> >> can't cut >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> their budget without affecting their life. >>>> >>>> >>>>> --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] That word again! >>>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 11:33 AM >>>>>> I'm small fry. >>>>>> about 70 per day, 2 to 3,000 per month >>>>>> been running since oct of 08 >>>>>> >>>>>> but more and more people that thought it >>>>>> >> would >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> never happen >>>> >>>> >>>>>> to them are >>>>>> finding out that it can like the lady that >>>>>> >> wrote >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> me last >>>> >>>> >>>>>> night from NJ >>>>>> >>>>>> 75,000 per year as a programmer. >>>>>> now she is finding out like I am that the >>>>>> >> only >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> thing she >>>> >>>> >>>>>> can get is 10 >>>>>> dollars per hour. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've had stories on here about tv news >>>>>> >> anchors >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> making >>>> >>>> >>>>>> 250,000 per year >>>>>> taking jobs as vet's assistants.. >>>>>> >>>>>> it really amazes me all of the stuff that >>>>>> >> comes >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> across my >>>> >>>> >>>>>> desk every day. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/8/2010 10:24 AM, Michael Madigan >>>>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> How many hits are you getting a day? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Virgil >>>>>>> >> Bierschwale<[email protected]> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OT] That word >>>>>>>> >> again! >> >>>>>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, >>>>>>>> >> 11:00 AM >> >>>>>>>> point taken... >>>>>>>> it was never my intent to end up >>>>>>>> >> where I'm >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> at >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> publishing >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> this blog. >>>>>>>> but as I receive more and more >>>>>>>> >> letters >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> from people >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> going >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> through the >>>>>>>> same thing like this next one I >>>>>>>> >> know I'm >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> doing >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> what needs >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> to be done. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=8372 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now if I can figure out a way to >>>>>>>> >> pay the >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> bills I >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> will hire >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> a grammar >>>>>>>> person and everybody will be >>>>>>>> >> happy, but >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> for now I >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> must >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> focus on finding >>>>>>>> work. >>>>>>>> As it is this site takes 4 to 8 >>>>>>>> >> hours per >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> day just >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> to keep >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> it running >>>>>>>> and I simply have no more to >>>>>>>> >> give... >> >>>>>>>> On 4/8/2010 9:52 AM, Ricardo >>>>>>>> >> Aráoz >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Virgil Bierschwale wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> yep, and I would say that >>>>>>>>>> >> the >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> reason >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> everything is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> going to hell in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> America is because >>>>>>>>>> >> everybody is >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> focused on >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> details and ignoring the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> big picture. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> believe me, it would be >>>>>>>>>> >> nice to go >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> to >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> school and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> clean up my grammar, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> but there is no interest, >>>>>>>>>> >> no time >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> and no >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> money. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> just ain't going to >>>>>>>>>> >> happen. >> >>>>>>>>>> Now if any of you kind >>>>>>>>>> >> folks want >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> to come >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> in and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> clean up the articles >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> before releasing, I will >>>>>>>>>> >> have >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> your >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> passwords >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> ready. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> For me, I'm going to >>>>>>>>>> >> continue to >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> focus on >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> the big >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> picture and let ya'll >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> worry about the little >>>>>>>>>> >> things that >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> don't >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> mean >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> squat to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> This time, my comments are not >>>>>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> bother or >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> offend >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> you. Not even so that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> you change your mind, though >>>>>>>>> >> you might >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> agree >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> with >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> some. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as >>>>>>>>> >> wordless >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> thinking, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> once your >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> thought process >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> needs any conceptual ground >>>>>>>>> >> you will >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> need a >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> language. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Therefore your >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> thought process and your >>>>>>>>> >> language are >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> intimately >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> linked. So much so that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> we create special languages >>>>>>>>> >> for >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> special needs, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> such as >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Math, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> programming, etc. Now I >>>>>>>>> >> believe that >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> if your >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> language >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> is imprecise, then >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> your thought process will tend >>>>>>>>> >> to be >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> imprecise. You >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> can rarely be good >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> with bad tools, and if you >>>>>>>>> >> are, it >> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> will be >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> much harder >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> to be. And >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> language is the tool for >>>>>>>>> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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