On 30/05/10 13:34, john harvey wrote: > Thanks Ricardo for the expected ad hominem attack, as per usual. The libs > are the ones who won't allow drilling in more manageable waters, or in our > country where we could be drilling and not being dependant on foreign > (terrorists) oil. Unlike you I am going to resist the urge to take the > debate personal.
Everything is personal! If you think you can detach yourself from your own self (notice the stupidity of the sentence), then you deceive yourself... or you lie. > The facts are: > 1. we should be drilling our own oil, in water that isn't a mile deep. > Once again (if it's not too personal or ad hominem), how many inches is your enlightened advice? > 2. we should be pushing for alternative sources, but until we achieve that, > we need to drill in our own country. > Of course! But somehow your govts insist on dropping the shit in other people's backyard. You should start being responsible for the shit you generate with your big cars, no public transport, and indiscriminate use of energy. (hope this is not ad hominem). > 3. we should investigate the current oil spill and let the chips fall where > they may. (Fat chance of that happening because both parties are in bed with > them, including obama) > You keep forgetting the oil company's responsibility. Or don't you think they are responsible? (is this personal? Yes! It's *your* opinion, *your* forgetfulness) > 4. when we buy oil from countries that export both oil and terrorism, we > fund our own demise. > Terrorism is not exported! They did not send troops to *your* country! Ok, so they take the conflict to your country, or did you think you'd be able to always fight abroad and suffer no local consequences. To paraphrase your military speech, twin towers people could be considered "collateral damage". Stop messing with other countries (and on top of that on other continents) and you'll see terrorism stop (remember when they called it "resistance"? You know, when the blown trains and cafés where in occupied France). > 5. thanks for calling me a genius! I get that quite a lot. > But I bet no one ever congratulated you on your perception of irony. > John Harvey > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Ricardo Aráoz > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:12 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Oil well is still spewing > > On 30/05/10 12:24, john harvey wrote: > >> I think we need to drill, but we shouldn't be drilling in 1 mile deep >> > water. > >> Forcing the oil companies that far off shore has helped create this >> > problem. > >> We should be able to drill on our own land. The alternative is we keep >> funding terrorism. I think it would be wonderful if we didn't need oil at >> all, but I'm afraid we do have to deal with reality. >> >> > So according to your huge wisdom, how many inches of water is the limit? > And have you *forced* the oil companies? Did you actually put a gun to > their poor little heads? Because of course the companies have no > responsibility whatsoever, it's all the "reds" and "slims" fault. Isn't it? > BTW, you are a genius. To be able to bring into a conversation dealing > with an oil spill in the gulf done by a Brit company with USA > authorization the "terrorism" word is really something. In a few posts > from now we'll see the spill is really a terrorist attack coordinated by > bin Laden allied with the Democrats. > To paraphrase you : I think it would be wonderful if we didn't need > brains at all, and I'm afraid some of us have accomplished that. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Nicholas Geti >> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 9:41 AM >> To: ProFox Email List >> Subject: Re: [OT] Oil well is still spewing >> >> Just a couple of weeks ago weren't you the one who said we need to drill >> > as > >> much as we can and that people were raising false alarms about the >> environment? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Madigan"<[email protected]> >> To:<undisclosed recipients:> >> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:12 PM >> Subject: [OT] Oil well is still spewing >> >> >> >> >>> Doesn't look like they stopped it much >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepa > >> ge/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html >> >> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
