On 07/11/10 20:49, Publius Maximus wrote:
> As usual, Geoff blows off a sincere question, being a high theologian
> and all, and gets it wrong.
>
> Why the question is relevant *to questions of deep theology*:
>
> 1. It gets to the question of what makes us different from angels and
> other created beings. Free will is not the primary differentiator --
> though it is interesting to note that angels appear to exercise a form
> of it once for eternity, and are not subject to grace or salvation
> after their "fall." Rather, what makes us different from all other
> created beings is that we are uniquely made in the image of God,
> having body, soul and spirit. Many created beings have one or two of
> these elements, but only we have the trifecta. This is of great
> theological significance.
>
> 2. Satan himself was not just an angel, but God's favorite, till he
> rebelled, and, as Mike noted, took a third of the heavenly hosts down
> with himself. Just who Satan is, and how he and the angels (now
> demons) under his command have acquired power and authority on earth
> (he is described as the "god of this world") is immensely important to
> understanding why grace and salvation themselves matter.
>
> 3. It gets to the nature and character of God, particularly that
> aspect of it that is incomprehensible (particularly to natural man) --
> namely, why He would make the universe the way He did, and suffer all
> these rebellious spirits at all, or require so many seemingly strange
> things of his vast, varied creation.
>
> I am ruminating on this and will give a fuller opinion tomorrow.
> Suffice to say for now I think they get a kind of "one-shot" free
> will, whereas the nature of our free will is a tad more complex and
> interwoven with the complexities of God's own character -- in whose
> image we were created.
>
>   

Phew! At last someone who understands the depth of the question. It's
not an easy one.
Will be waiting for your answer.

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