Yikes... I am supposedly at work but I will leave Publius to write a extensive treatise on Grace and how it covers ALL sins. And yes, running a nazi death camp does not exclude you from the grace of God. That is kinda the point of Grace. And there is no 'grace list'. And Grace IS sufficient. I would suggest a reading of the book of Romans for you. It covers such issues extensively. Hebrews wouldn't be a bad adjunct as well.
Geoff Flight General Manager Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Monday, 8 November 2010 12:41 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] On christian mythology geoff wrote: > This is truly bizarre at times. If you understood the nature of Grace your > questions would be easily understood. What can separate us from the love of > Christ? (check out Romans) short answer - nothing. Hi Geoff, So if you have received Grace - then willfully sin away - you are saved and nothing, even running a Nazi prison camp that kills millions of Jews, Homos, Gypsies and the rest, matters? No "good works" are necessary, Grace alone is sufficient? If Jesus has given you Grace, you can do all the bad things and you still have Salvation? What if a person who has not received grace believes in Jesus? Suppose he believes but he is not on the "Grace list" - what, if anything, can he do? > geoff wrote: >> Both of you get the whole notion wrong. > > <snip> > >> Pete by trying to include complications in a very >> simple concept: grace and salvation. It is really very simple and is the >> height (and depth) of theology. Jesus Christ is the centre of the Bible > and >> the central Figure in creation. Grace and salvation comes from Him alone. > > So, a Jew, for instance, could not be saved? > > If Jesus offers grace and salvation, is mere acceptance sufficient - or > does the "saved" person have to jump through all the other hoops of > organized religion? > > If mere acceptance is sufficient, then the pedophile priests make the > cut? They are priests - surely they accept Jesus as their Lord and > Saviour. They just confess- maybe to each other - and say the penance > prayers and poof - they are saved? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
