Any by the way, yes, my previous post was a deliberate attempt to reconcile Ricardo's initial ice-breaker question about the free will of angels with the actual topic -- which is much more ambitious -- as defined by the subject header.
- Publius On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Publius Maximus <[email protected]> wrote: > Ricardo: > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Ricardo Araoz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> And yet more silly talk. Jesus is not the center of the bible, he is the >> center of the new testament, in the old testament he doesn't even exist. >> But hey! Someone should tell those under educated jesuit theologists >> that they are wasting their time according to our local guru, namely Geoff. >> BTW, grace and salvation comes from God. > > I have recently come into contact with messianic Jewish believers > whose ability to relate just how thoroughly the Tanach and the B'rit > Hadashah complete each other blows away anything I ever learned from > either Jesuits theologians or Protestant preachers. Your conclusion > that Jesus -- the Word (or in Jesus' time, Tanach) made flesh -- is > somehow an altogether new or different thing is not rooted in an > understanding of Scripture on Scripture's terms, but on the terms of > your flawed Catholic understanding. > > Even the simplest parables and least spectacular miracles of Jesus > (Yeshua) come alive when you grasp the essential unity of the whole of > Scripture from the Hebraic mindset that was contemporary in Jesus' > time. > > And by the way, if you grasped how thoroughly pretty much all of our > modern so-called Christian traditions, as promulgated by Catholic, > Orthodox and Protestant alike, come directly from the pagan worship of > the ancient Persian gods -- in particular the sun god Ishtar -- you'd > have to rethink everything you think you know. It's really quite > stunning, but even the very dates, imagery and narrative of Christmas > and Easter are derived from these ancient pagan rituals and > traditions. They bare no relationship or resemblance to the will of > the God of the Old or New Testaments at all. > > No harm in worshipping the Messiah on these man-made holidays anyway, > but truly, the level of deception involved in making them what they > have become makes Dan Brown's most imaginative conspiratorial > non-sequitors seem quite mild and almost uninteresting by comparison. > > - Publius > >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
