Perhaps the level of deadbeats is lover in Australia, but in America there are people who pay zero taxes a year, so the number of producers is rapidly being overtaken by the number of takers.
--- On Wed, 11/10/10, geoff <[email protected]> wrote: > From: geoff <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 9:29 PM > Well it actually IS on the subject > since the subject was health care. You > would be amazed (and probably surprised) at the level of > scorn and mocking > that is directed at the American health system from > virtually anywhere in > the first world. Health care is a basic right given to all, > well at least in > MOST first-world countries it is. And many posters have in > previous threads > made significant comment on those who 'dont deserve' health > care. You have > built an economy based on some fine principles, but the > flip side of that > has brought you near depression and a level of debt and > financial disaster > that is unparalleled. Good lessons there to be learned and > apparently very > few of them have been. It seems a uniquely American > attitude to strive for > the best - for me and mine. It works - and works well - > until you fail. And > then you end up with no welfare, no food, no health care > and no hope. And > all of this is brought to you by the nation with more > billionaires than the > rest of the planet combined. Your health debate is actually > about FAR MORE > than health. It is a litmus test on your national > character. It describes > who you are and what your true national priorities are. And > apparently the > poor aren't one of them. By supporting your poor - > undeserving tho they may > be - in real and genuine ways you may discover a hidden > resource in your > nation: compassion. > > Here's hoping. > > Geoff Flight > General Manager > > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf > Of Nicholas Geti > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 12:47 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill > > Well, you certainly have made a leap here and changed the > subject. There is > nothing about "deserving it" in any of the debate. It is > about the waste > involved and the 1000s of pages of rules that no one > understands. Also about > > illegals coming in the U.S. to get free care and busting > the budgets of many > > cities. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "geoff" <[email protected]> > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:15 PM > Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill > > > > It is quite amusing for us out here watching the > so-called 'land of the > > free' and 'bastion of democracy' show that its 'light > on the hill' is > > slowly > > going out. The essential argument against the health > reforms is that > > people > > who 'don't deserve it' will get it. Don't deserve > health care? There is a > > reason your country is going down the toilet. It has > been said that the > > true > > test of the character of a nation is how it treats its > poor and most > > vulnerable. The USA is the richest nation on the > planet yet has the > > highest > > rate of poverty outside the 3rd world. The test of > character is one that > > you > > have failed. > > > > And just for the record... we have universal health > care and have mostly > > budget surpluses and little to no govt debt. It CAN be > done - but only by > > people with the drive and compassion to see it done. > > > > Geoff Flight > > General Manager > > > > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf > > Of Nicholas Geti > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 4:08 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill > > > > A taxpayer voting for a Democrat is like a chicken > voting for Col. > > Sanders. > > Democrats are trying to say that Supreme Court > precedence permits forcing > > taxpayers to buy something they don't want. > > > > > http://visiontoamerica.org/story/legal-challenge-could-derail-health-care-la > > w.html > > > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > multipart/alternative > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > text/html > > --- >[excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

