Those driven by fear value strength over weakness, conquest over mutual respect, conflict over negotiation, and war over peace. Thankfully, there is no international prize honoring this hateful mentality. LOL
Regards, LelandJ On 11/26/2010 12:05 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: > The Nobel Prize is worthless. Al Gore, Barack Obama and Yasir Arafat all > won the Peace Prize. GARBAGE. > > --- On Thu, 11/25/10, Nicholas Geti<[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Nicholas Geti<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OT] There will be blood >> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> >> Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 12:52 PM >> Yep. He has a Nobel Prize but it sure >> didn't mean anything. I saw another >> article which said essentially Krugman is exactly that. He >> had gone on and >> on about how bad the Republicans were in the Clinton era >> and that it would >> be 50 years before the Republicans ever saw any power >> again. The Democrats >> had a lock on the American psyche. He is a total >> liberal/progressive. And >> yet he still goes on and on about how bad the Republicans >> are. >> >> I put Leland in the same category based on this latest >> missive. He is >> talking exactly like Krugman. In fact he might even be >> getting his >> information from Krugman's articles. >> >> Actually I hope there is government gridlock. It keeps them >> out of our >> pockets or trying to control our lives. I think the economy >> will recover >> without their "help". >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Madigan"<[email protected]> >> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [OT] There will be blood >> >> >>> Krugman is a fool >>> >>> --- On Wed, 11/24/10, Leland Jackson<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> From: Leland Jackson<[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [OT] There will be blood >>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> >>>> Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 2:07 PM >>>> Here's a good article from the New >>>> York Times about the current state of >>>> bi-partisan politics in the USA. The Republicans >> have their >>>> priorities >>>> seriously disorganized, and seem to be placing >> gaining more >>>> power within >>>> the party above all else, including country and >> what's in >>>> the best >>>> interest of the American people. If things go on >> like this >>>> much longer, >>>> I wounder what Thanksgiving and Christmas, if any, >> will >>>> look like in the >>>> future. LOL >>>> >>>> #----------------------------------- >>>> Op-Ed Columnist >>>> There Will Be Blood >>>> By PAUL KRUGMAN >>>> Published: November 22, 2010 >>>> >>>> >>>> Former Senator Alan Simpson is a Very Serious >> Person. He >>>> must be — after >>>> all, President Obama appointed him as co-chairman >> of a >>>> special >>>> commission on deficit reduction. >>>> >>>> So here’s what the very serious Mr. Simpson said >> on >>>> Friday: “I can’t >>>> wait for the blood bath in April. ... When debt >> limit time >>>> comes, >>>> they’re going to look around and say, ‘What in >> the hell >>>> do we do now? >>>> We’ve got guys who will not approve the debt >> limit >>>> extension unless we >>>> give ’em a piece of meat, real meat,’ ” >> meaning >>>> spending cuts. “And boy, >>>> the blood bath will be extraordinary,” he >> continued. >>>> Think of Mr. Simpson’s blood lust as one more >> piece of >>>> evidence that our >>>> nation is in much worse shape, much closer to a >> political >>>> breakdown, >>>> than most people realize. >>>> >>>> Some explanation: There’s a legal limit to >> federal debt, >>>> which must be >>>> raised periodically if the government keeps >> running >>>> deficits; the limit >>>> will be reached again this spring. And since >> nobody, not >>>> even the >>>> hawkiest of deficit hawks, thinks the budget can >> be >>>> balanced >>>> immediately, the debt limit must be raised to >> avoid a >>>> government >>>> shutdown. But Republicans will probably try to >> blackmail >>>> the president >>>> into policy concessions by, in effect, holding >> the >>>> government hostage; >>>> they’ve done it before. >>>> >>>> Now, you might think that the prospect of this >> kind of >>>> standoff, which >>>> might deny many Americans essential services, >> wreak havoc >>>> in financial >>>> markets and undermine America’s role in the >> world, would >>>> worry all men >>>> of good will. But no, Mr. Simpson “can’t >> wait.” And >>>> he’s what passes, >>>> these days, for a reasonable Republican. >>>> >>>> The fact is that one of our two great political >> parties has >>>> made it >>>> clear that it has no interest in making America >> governable, >>>> unless it’s >>>> doing the governing. And that party now controls >> one house >>>> of Congress, >>>> which means that the country will not, in fact, >> be >>>> governable without >>>> that party’s cooperation — cooperation that >> won’t be >>>> forthcoming. >>>> >>>> Elite opinion has been slow to recognize this >> reality. Thus >>>> on the same >>>> day that Mr. Simpson rejoiced in the prospect of >> chaos, Ben >>>> Bernanke, >>>> the Federal Reserve chairman, appealed for help >> in >>>> confronting mass >>>> unemployment. He asked for “a fiscal program >> that >>>> combines near-term >>>> measures to enhance growth with strong, >> confidence-inducing >>>> steps to >>>> reduce longer-term structural deficits.” >>>> >>>> My immediate thought was, why not ask for a pony, >> too? >>>> After all, the >>>> G.O.P. isn’t interested in helping the economy >> as long as >>>> a Democrat is >>>> in the White House. Indeed, far from being willing >> to help >>>> Mr. >>>> Bernanke’s efforts, Republicans are trying to >> bully the >>>> Fed itself into >>>> giving up completely on trying to reduce >> unemployment. >>>> And on matters fiscal, the G.O.P. program is to do >> almost >>>> exactly the >>>> opposite of what Mr. Bernanke called for. On one >> side, >>>> Republicans >>>> oppose just about everything that might reduce >> structural >>>> deficits: they >>>> demand that the Bush tax cuts be made permanent >> while >>>> demagoguing >>>> efforts to limit the rise in Medicare costs, which >> are >>>> essential to any >>>> attempts to get the budget under control. On the >> other, the >>>> G.O.P. >>>> opposes anything that might help sustain demand in >> a >>>> depressed economy — >>>> even aid to small businesses, which the party >> claims to >>>> love. >>>> >>>> Right now, in particular, Republicans are blocking >> an >>>> extension of >>>> unemployment benefits — an action that will both >> cause >>>> immense hardship >>>> and drain purchasing power from an already >> sputtering >>>> economy. But >>>> there’s no point appealing to the better angels >> of their >>>> nature; America >>>> just doesn’t work that way anymore. >>>> >>>> And opposition for the sake of opposition isn’t >> limited >>>> to economic >>>> policy. Politics, they used to tell us, stops at >> the >>>> water’s edge — but >>>> that was then. >>>> >>>> These days, national security experts are tearing >> their >>>> hair out over >>>> the decision of Senate Republicans to block a >> desperately >>>> needed new >>>> strategic arms treaty. And everyone knows that >> these >>>> Republicans oppose >>>> the treaty, not because of legitimate objections, >> but >>>> simply because >>>> it’s an Obama administration initiative; if >> sabotaging >>>> the president >>>> endangers the nation, so be it. >>>> >>>> How does this end? Mr. Obama is still talking >> about >>>> bipartisan outreach, >>>> and maybe if he caves in sufficiently he can avoid >> a >>>> federal shutdown >>>> this spring. But any respite would be only >> temporary; >>>> again, the G.O.P. >>>> is just not interested in helping a Democrat >> govern. >>>> My sense is that most Americans still don’t >> understand >>>> this reality. >>>> They still imagine that when push comes to shove, >> our >>>> politicians will >>>> come together to do what’s necessary. But that >> was >>>> another country. >>>> >>>> It’s hard to see how this situation is resolved >> without a >>>> major crisis >>>> of some kind. Mr. Simpson may or may not get the >> blood bath >>>> he craves >>>> this April, but there will be blood sooner or >> later. And we >>>> can only >>>> hope that the nation that emerges from that blood >> bath is >>>> still one we >>>> recognize. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/opinion/22krugman.html?ex=1306213200&en=d04ab225d1b83af9&ei=5087&WT.mc_id=NYT-E-I-NYT-E-AT-1124-L16 >>>> >>>> #----------------------------- >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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