So in your view there is no political difference whatsoever between France and the URSS?
You take the fun out of it. You'll just admit you are ignorant.

BTW, "let's see how far that gets them" implies they are just starting to be socialist and you, who know better (because of your greater experience in a socialist country I guess), are foreseeing what lies ahead. Please don't be shy, books won't turn you down like ladies do, they will let you read them. Newspapers too. Does Miterrand ring a bell? As in France's Socialist president in 1986? TWENTY NINE YEARS AGO!!!
But hey, whoever say doom would come fast? It takes it's time, doesn't it?
What's more, the French "welfare state" developed much earlier, it has been developing since the 18th century. More recently, the social security administration started in 1945 and has been gradually extending social protection to all residents in France. That's a long time. Isn't it. France actually spends 30% of GDP in the welfare system. What is the percentage USA spends in military system? What does it tell us? That France prioritizes solidarity and the well being of it's citizens while USA prioritizes killing other people? And let me remind you that right now France is in dire straits, as is the rest of the world, not because of welfare but because of the economic crisis generated in the US. So let's see, it would seem the problems have not been caused by socialism, nor the welfare system, but because of savage capitalism and lack of control over speculation. Ironic, isn't it?



El 10/10/12 23:36, Nicholas Geti escribió:
Socialism = Communism

In either case only a handful of people "work for the common good". The rest are on the dole. A perfect example is France which is a cradle to grave socialistic state and they are trying to raise the tax rate to 75% on rich people. Let's see how far that gets them.

Nick Geti


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Which only proves the depth of your ignorance.


El 10/10/12 13:26, Nicholas Geti escribió:
Yep. The two words are spelled differently but the result is the same.
Nick Geti


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I think you are wrong there. We all work for the good of *our* system.
For example when your soldiers entered WWII. When your whole country
worked for the "war effort". It didn't look so bad then. Why? Is it
because if "we all work" to kill other people it is all right but if "we
all work" to help other people then it's not?

BTW, when "we all work for the good of" *our* system is not communism,
it's socialism. Not the same by far.




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