I am new to profox. If I want to make a contribution, is this the email address to do so? Thanks Wes
Wes Wilson, President ERW Custom Programming, Inc. Crescent Lake Plaza 5459 Elizabeth Lake Rd. Waterford, MI 48327 (248) 683-4182 http://www.erw.com/ ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:10 AM Subject: ProFox Digest, Vol 114, Issue 67 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Send ProFox mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ProFox digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [OT] Hil takes one for the Bammer (Pete Theisen) 2. Re: Crazy? (Alan Bourke) 3. Re: Crazy? (Mike Copeland) 4. Re: [OT] Hil takes one for the Bammer (Ricardo Ar?oz) 5. Re: [OT] Debate (Ricardo Ar?oz) 6. Re: [OT] Debate (Ricardo Ar?oz) 7. RE: Crazy? (Kurt Wendt) 8. Re: [OT] Hil takes one for the Bammer (lelandj) 9. Re: Crazy? (MB Software Solutions, LLC) 10. Re: [OT] Debate (Michael Madigan) 11. Re: [OT] Debate (Michael Madigan) 12. Re: [OT] Debate (Stephen Russell) 13. Re: [OT] Debate (lelandj) 14. Re: [OT] Debate (Ricardo Ar?oz) 15. Re: [OT] Debate (Michael Oke, II) On 10/17/2012 02:28 AM, geoff wrote: > We wouldn't send in the army or air-force into another country's sovereign > territory to do so. That is an act of war which of course is how you think. > But also, we dont act like arrogant pricks, ignoring everyone elses laws and > rights as you do. That is the cause of the problem. the rest of the world > can manage not to get their embassies attacked. Why cant you? Hi Geoff, I have been reading here and there that this or that country closed an embassy "temporarily", which I would advocate our doing. Say we had one middle east embassy in Israel. Anyone in the middle east wants to do business with the US government, drop on by - nice central location. It would be a secure facility with only one window in the compound wall, a sort of bank teller or jail visit arrangement. If anyone were to shoot, the glass would be 6" thick. A mail room to receive documents where the military would screen them. Of course, this would cost a few in the third world their jobs, but they would have brought it upon themselves. This latest episode would not have happened. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ On Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: > Here's what might be a crazy idea... Yes. The public internet isn't fast or stable or secure enough. Do it properly with web services. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm I really appreciate you taking the time to clarify this, Christof! It makes sense that the protocol would need to support record-locking and concurrent access. Sounds like a great recipe for corrupted data. And yes, the latency is a huge issue. Sounds like unless the files are really small and the number of concurrent users is small, it's a really bad idea. Crazy even! Thanks again. Mike -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Crazy? From: Christof Wollenhaupt <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 10/16/2012 7:56 PM > What if someone were to set up a Windows share drive from a Cloud drive > service...like Rackspace offers? > Would that file share source be > a) acceptable to Foxpro for file locks, buffers, etc > b) prone to index corruption > c) speedy enough to serve the purpose? > I've done a session on this topic a while ago... The only protocol that supports record locking and concurrent access is SMB/CIFS. That's an non-encrypted protocol that needs to be supplemented by a VPN channel, whatever sort of. What's killing the whole thing, though, is the increase in latency. You go from <1 ms on a local LAN to over 30 ms (and that's a good connection). Even if the bandwidth is high (like my 100 MBit connection at home), it's still at least 30 times slower than a local network drive with the same transfer speed (100 MBit LAN). El 17/10/12 02:42, geoff escribió: > wow... you make my own point even better than I do. your way around every > problem is to declare war? Do you really yet understand why the USA is > growing more hated every day? It is because of answers like this. You are a > bully. No *he *is not. He is just an old fag coward. I'm sure if this were a real conversation and I went up and slapped him all we would get are sobs. > Your country is a bully. And when someone blows stuff up and kills > some of your people you cry and then wonder why it all happened and why > people hate you. But of course. Now let me correct you, nobody killed some of their people, they were just "collateral damage". > Bring on the next Cold War. Maybe that will shut you lot up and keep you > from treating the entire world as your rightful playground. > > And here again is the reaction you blokes provoke. And please note that he is Christian, native English speaker, educated, member of the commonwealth, etc. etc. Now what reaction do you think you can expect from people from different cultures? On a last personal note, Geoff. I have little old coward blacklisted in my computer so as not to have to read all the hatred that pours constantly out of his mouth. I am glad he's built his own hell but I don't want to be dragged in to it. Would you please not cite him, or just cite little pieces of his dirt when you answer? So that I don't get so much mud in my eyes? Thanks --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- El 17/10/12 02:09, Nicholas Geti escribió: > Did any of you notice that Obama spent almost the entire time accusing Mitt > of all kinds of nefarious motives but never said anything about what he would > do in the next four years? It was a pathetic display. He was constantly > putting words into Mitt's mouth. That is how the liberals attempt to move > their hidden agenda. It is always accuse the conservatives of doing something > they hate; never tell anyone how they would do it. We find out what they > would do after the fact. Yet he won this debate. Suck it up!!! El 17/10/12 02:12, Michael Madigan escribió: > He was a spectacular failure for his first 4 years, what kind of idiot would > give him 4 more? > > Errhhhhh..... that 54% of the people Mitt the shit despises? The ones he said would never vote for him because they were drinking from govt tits? If that's how it works - then, seems you have looked into it a LOT more than I have. I know of it - but, only peeked at it peripherally - as I didn't have a specific need yet for which I needed a specific solution. Mostly I was just giving a heads up about it - since, it seemed to me to be very close to what you were talking about. But, since you've probably been on this list a lot longer than me - I should have figured you would be familiar w/FoxInCloud - and that you had already probably looked into it... L8r, -K- -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Copeland Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Crazy? yep, have looked at it. It, as I understand it, converts your VFP application to HTML forms. Sweet, neat, fun to eat, but not what my goal is. I'm looking at the backend, not the interface. Or maybe I missed your point? Mike -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Crazy? From: Kurt Wendt <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 10/16/2012 4:25 PM Why not look into FoxInCloud - as I believe that is the point of that system - and the Developer is here on this list! -K- -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Copeland Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Crazy? Here's what might be a crazy idea... Instead of using a local Windows or Linux box as a file server for DBF files... What if someone were to set up a Windows share drive from a Cloud drive service...like Rackspace offers? Would that file share source be a) acceptable to Foxpro for file locks, buffers, etc b) prone to index corruption c) speedy enough to serve the purpose? I'm thinking of a situation where multiple distant locations need to access the same files, with mostly reading but some updating. Anyone doing that? Anyone aware of a reason it would be a bad idea? I guess the main point would be the speed of the Internet connection... Mike Cope[excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
