I guess it is safe to assume shell script run under jconsole, or use
the verb isatty but which might not work under windows.

nouns for test environments,
jhs:  IFJHS

jconsole j602: IFCONSOLE
jconsole j701: IFGTK+:IFJHS

use IFJ6 to test for j602/j701


Пнд, 20 Авг 2012, Henry Rich писал(а):
> You're right, that's not what I meant.
> 
> I mean, I want to put a test in lint.ijs to branch around the grid
> code if jconsole, jhs or shell scripts are running.  I know I've seen
> traffic here about variables that are set to indicate the operating
> environment, but I don't even remember what to search for.  So: can
> you tell me where to find the list of variables that describe the
> environment; or, if it's not collected anywhere, can you tell me what
> to test for to see if jconsole, jhs or shell scripts are running?
> 
> Henry Rich
> 
> On 8/20/2012 7:34 PM, bill lam wrote:
> >(I may mis-read your question)
> >
> >test script for addons are run differently in j602 and j701, in
> >j602, it is the TESTFILE in project manager. In J701 it is the
> >run.ijs in the source folder.  You may checkout the tables/tara from
> >svn Public repo to see how it work.
> >
> >Пнд, 20 Авг 2012, Henry Rich писал(а):
> >>Sure, I could just return the table of lines in error.  What is the
> >>best way to test for no grid?  Or better, can you point me to where
> >>the test is documented?
> >>
> >>Henry Rich
> >>
> >>On 8/20/2012 7:04 PM, bill lam wrote:
> >>>Now it is ok.
> >>>
> >>>On the lint itself, it depends on grid, this make it impossible to
> >>>run under jconsole, jhs or shell scripts.  Could the grid be
> >>>optional?
> >>>
> >>>Пнд, 20 Авг 2012, Henry Rich писал(а):
> >>>>OK, I've tried again, this time setting a property on the debug
> >>>>folder, removing the files, and putting them back.  Somewhere along
> >>>>the way there was a message 'manifest is invalid' but I haven't been
> >>>>able to make it repeat.
> >>>>
> >>>>Is it building properly, and are the properties correct?
> >>>>
> >>>>[TortoiseSVN does not have a command-line tool to run SVN, but I
> >>>>think the file properties are correct]
> >>>>
> >>>>Henry Rich
> >>>>
> >>>>On 8/19/2012 9:00 PM, bill lam wrote:
> >>>>>native eol is ok and should be the correct choice. What I observed
> >>>>>is that none of your files have propset. I've forgetten how
> >>>>>tortoisesvn work, Can you confirm by cd to the debug/lint folder and
> >>>>>type the svn command
> >>>>>
> >>>>>svn pget svn:eol-style *
> >>>>>
> >>>>>to see propset done or not?  If it prints nothing, then propset
> >>>>>has not yet done. Then you can type
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Not sure how to check this with tortoisesvn.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Вск, 19 Авг 2012, Henry Rich писал(а):
> >>>>>>I'm using TortoiseSVN.  I selected the /debug directory in addons,
> >>>>>>right-clicked|TortoiseSVN|Settings; then push Edit under 'Set
> >>>>>>configuration file', and added the lines:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>*.ijs = svn:eol-style=native
> >>>>>>*.jproj = svn:eol-style=LF
> >>>>>>*.ijp = svn:eol-style=LF
> >>>>>>*.ijt = svn:eol-style=LF
> >>>>>>*.txt = svn:eol-style=LF
> >>>>>>*.htm = svn:eol-style=LF
> >>>>>>*.html = svn:eol-style=LF
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hey, wait a minute, I didn't fix the line for *.ijs.  It should be LF
> >>>>>>too, like
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>*.ijs = svn:eol-style=LF
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>OK, I've made that change now, & I have re-put the files.  Is the
> >>>>>>CRLF right now?  If not, what was wrong with the above?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Henry Rich
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On 8/19/2012 8:18 PM, bill lam wrote:
> >>>>>>>I checkout it with both git and svn, but all of your files are still
> >>>>>>>using CRLF. I checked your file did not propset eol-style.  Which
> >>>>>>>svn client do you use?  How did you force files commit using LF?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Вск, 19 Авг 2012, Henry Rich писал(а):
> >>>>>>>>I have made lint into an addon with its own directory.  It seems to
> >>>>>>>>be there for J602, and, according to the log, for J701 as well.  I
> >>>>>>>>fixed a couple of bugs in it too.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I ran it on a program that had been in production for years and it
> >>>>>>>>found an undefined-variable path that had never been seen in practice
> >>>>>>>>- but was about to, in about a week.  Just-in-time programming!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I tried fiddling with my SVN config to cause it to use LF
> >>>>>>>>termination; if anyone with *nix can verify that it worked I'd be
> >>>>>>>>obliged.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Henry Rich
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On 8/17/2012 1:18 AM, Ian Clark wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>Thanks, Ric.
> >>>>>>>>>I was unaware of that about /misc/ and might have fallen foul of it 
> >>>>>>>>>myself.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Ric Sherlock <[email protected]> 
> >>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>Just to expand on Bill's message. The <addoncategory>/misc folders 
> >>>>>>>>>>are
> >>>>>>>>>>treated differently from other addons. Whereas other addons have a
> >>>>>>>>>>manifest.ijs that lets the author specify which platforms and 
> >>>>>>>>>>versions to
> >>>>>>>>>>target, the misc addons currently only get built for a single 
> >>>>>>>>>>version. This
> >>>>>>>>>>is currently 7.
> >>>>>>>>>>  On Aug 17, 2012 3:28 PM, "bill lam" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>That addons is j7 specific.  If the file was add to other folders, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>J602
> >>>>>>>>>>>might have a chance to see it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Птн, 17 Авг 2012, Ian Clark писал(а):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>It doesn't seem to be there on j602.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I have tested it only on J6.02.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Henry Rich
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On 8/16/2012 9:51 AM, Ian Clark wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Is lint.ijs going to be available in j602 also?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Package Manager lets me download it for JGTK. I've tried 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>running it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>under j602 and it seems to work with the example I've tried, so 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>can't be any major j7 dependencies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Henry Rich 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, I created a directory and then realized it would go as a 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>single
> >>>>>>>>>>>file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/misc, and deleted the /lint directory.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Henry Rich
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 8/12/2012 11:45 PM, Ric Sherlock wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I think it was initially committed to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>addons/general/lint/lint.ijs
> >>>>>>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then subsequently moved? to addons/general/misc/lint.ijs  I 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>can see
> >>>>>>>>>>>it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>there at the moment using WebSVN.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are a couple of other things regarding WebSVN that 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nice...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     a) can we get the RSS enabled (makes it easier to keep 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>changes)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     b) the Ctrl+F1 functionality in GtkIDE that opened the
> >>>>>>>>>>>appropriate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>source file using Trac, doesn't work correctly with WebSVN 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>yet. For
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>example trying to get help on freads attempts to open this 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>URL:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jsoftware.com/wsvn/base7/browser/trunk/main/main/files.ijs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>instead of this one:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.jsoftware.com/wsvn/system7/trunk/main/main/files.ijs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:36 PM, chris burke 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lint.ijs is not in addons/general/misc. Did you commit your
> >>>>>>>>>>>changes?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AFAIK, JAL is working fine...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:10 AM, bill lam 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are some problem with JAL build script perhaps 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>related to
> >>>>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>recent relocation of server to amazon.  I think Chris will 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fix it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Вск, 12 Авг 2012, Henry Rich писал(а):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know what has to happen to make it show up in 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Package
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Manager. Bill would.  Maybe some rebuild is required.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Perhaps you can check it out using SVN?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Henry Rich
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 8/12/2012 6:12 PM, Ian Clark wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sounds good, Henry. I certainly have a use for that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But I can't see it in pacman for either JGTK or j602.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Henry Rich <
> >>>>>>>>>>>[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have an alpha-test version of a syntax checker for J
> >>>>>>>>>>>scripts.  It
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the addons, as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>general/misc/lint.ijs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The goal is to catch errors before execution.  It can 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>find only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gross
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>errors, but those are the kind my programming students 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>make, so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>progress IMO.  What it looks for is:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    explicit definitions lacking trailing ), and ) with 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>definition
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    undefined names, including names not defined in all 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paths
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    verbs used with invalid valences
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    non-noun results at the end of condition blocks and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verbs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    syntax errors
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    sentences with no effect on execution (eg verb verb)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The idea is that lint can be used in place of load.  It 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>loads
> >>>>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>script,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then checks it for errors by executing each line of each
> >>>>>>>>>>>explicit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>definition
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in 'safe mode' where side effects are prevented.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>example:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lint '~addons/general/misc/lint.ijs'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The result of the verb is a table of (line number);(error
> >>>>>>>>>>>message).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If there are errors, it brings up a grid showing the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>program
> >>>>>>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>error
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>messages.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would test this a lot more before releasing it, but 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>school
> >>>>>>>>>>>starts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tomorrow
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>& I'm not going to have much more time to put on it.  I 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>think
> >>>>>>>>>>>it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>better
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than nothing - not freshman-proof, but I'll fix that as 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>freshmen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tear
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>into it.  Meanwhile I would appreciate suggestions and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bug
> >>>>>>>>>>>reports.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(My thanks to Dan King who suggested this project at the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>J
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Conference
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>response to my bellyaching about J's error-detection
> >>>>>>>>>>>deficiencies)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Henry Rich
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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