But what's wrong with @ that's preferable with [: ? (I think this has been asked before.)

Aren't they both devices to represent what "ordinary" mathematicians just write as f g h ... for the composition of f g h ... ?

Since J cleverly allows hooks and forks and interprets unbracketed trains of verbs as such, it needs some other way to recognise composition, and that's what both @ (and @:) and [: do for us - so why avoid one or the other of them? I agree it took a lot of time to get my head round the new way of seeing trains of verbs.

Mike

On 12/11/2012 7:57 AM, Linda Alvord wrote:
Well, it was possible, once I managed to get the rank right. Thanks for
providing hope that it could be done. Actually it is not too bad looking
after all.

    A
0 0 1 0 0
0 0 0 0 0
2 0 0 0 1
0 0 0 0 1
0 0 2 2 0
adj=:((<@#)&(i.n))@(0&<)
    adj
<@#&0 1 2 3 4@(0&<)
    adj A
--TT---T-T---┐
│2││0 4│4│2 3│
L-++---+-+----
f=: 13 :'(0<y)([:<#)"1 i.#y'
    f
(0 < ]) ([: < #)"1 [: i. #
    f A
--TT---T-T---┐
│2││0 4│4│2 3│
L-++---+-+----

       5!:4 <'adj'
                         -- <
             -- @ -------+- #
       -- & -+- 0 1 2 3 4
       │
-- @ -+     -- 0
       L- & -+- <
5!:4 <'f'
         -- 0
   ------+- <
   │     L- ]
   │          -- [:
   │     -----+- <
--+- " -+    L- #
   │     L- 1
   │
   │     -- [:
   L-----+- i.
         L- #

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com
[mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mike Day
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:15 AM
To: programm...@jsoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Arc consistency in J

I don't think you can remove the @, although you may use the cap, [: ,
instead,  but then you need to force the rank:
     ([:<(#&0 1 2 3@(0&<)))"1 A
+-++---+-+
|2||0 3|2|
+-++---+-+

I don't like using 0 1 2 3 explicitly since it presumes you know the
dimension of A, so I prefer either
        adja =: * <@# i.@#       NB. or use caps if @ is too horrible
     adja A
+-++---+-+
|2||0 3|2|
+-++---+-+

or

     adjI =: <@I.@:*
     adjI A
+-++---+-+
|2||0 3|2|
+-++---+-+

I. is so useful that I've defined an I "dfn" in my Dyalog APL too!

As for Raul's point about D,  I understood it to represent the domains of
the variables:  if there are m variables  and the domain of all their
possible values is i.n,  then 1 = D{~<i,j means that variable number i may
have value j .  m and n are likely to be different.  So  i<D is a boolean
representing the a priori values that variable i might have.
The consistency algorithm apparently examines which of these a priori values
are consistent with the domains of the other variables given certain unary
and binary constraints which are also inputs to the problem.

Michal's example had m=n which tends to mislead the casual reader!

I believe The m*m A array points to which constraints apply,  so 0<l=A{<i,k
means that binary constraint number l applies between variables i and k.
This is why A isn't just a boolean adjacency matrix nor do the entries
signify distances as they would in a weighted graph.

I'm puzzled that the algorithm requires each binary relation to be presented
in both direct and transposed form  (this explains Michal's need to patch in
a new index (to a transposed C) in the lower triangle of A for each index to
a direct C in the upper triangle).  Perhaps the later algorithms (arc-4...
?) deal with this difficulty.

It strikes me that for a real problem,  concise relations such as x <:
y,  or 2x+3y>5 can become pretty large and unwieldy C-tables, but perhaps
that's unavoidable when working in the integers.

(The other) Mike

On 11/11/2012 10:16 AM, Linda Alvord wrote:

Mike, I think this will work as an alternative to  adj

      A
0 0 1 0
0 0 0 0
2 0 0 1
0 0 2 0
     adj
<@#&0 1 2 3@(0&<)
     adj A
--TT---T-┐
│2││0 3│2│
L-++---+--
     h
0 1 2 3 <@#~ 0 < ]
     h A
--TT---T-┐
│2││0 3│2│
L-++---+--
Can anyone remove the final @ from h ?

Linda
-----Original Message-----
From:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com
[mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Raul Miller
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 12:44 PM To:programm...@jsoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Arc consistency in J

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Michal D.<michal.dobrog...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Here X is telling us to use the constraint c1 (presumably b/c C is not
shown) between the variables 1 and 3 (0 based).  Likewise, use the
transpose going the other direction (3,1).
Ouch, you are correct, I did not specify C.  On retesting, though, it looks
like my results stay the same when I use:

arccon=:3 :0
     'D c1 X'=: y
     'n d'=: $D
     adj =: ((<@#)&(i.n)) @ (0&<)
     A =: adj X
     C=: a: , c1 ; (|:c1)
     ac =: > @ (1&{) @ (revise^:_) @ ((i.n)&;)
     ac D
)

For longer scripts like this, I really need to get into the habit of
restarting J for every test.  So that probably means I should be using jhs.

Given the structure of X, only variables 1 and 3 can possibly change.
So if they are all changing something is definitely wrong.
This line of thinking does not make sense to me.  I thought that the
requirement was that a 1 in D exists only when there is a valid relationship
along a relevant arc.  If a 1 in D can also exist in the absence of any
relevant arc, I am back to needing a description of the algorithm.

Unfortunately I've run out of time to read the rest of your response
but hopefully I can get through it soon.  I've also wanted to write a
simpler version of the algorithm where the right argument of ac is
only D and it runs through all the arcs in the problem instead of
trying to be smart about which ones could have changed.
Yes... I am currently suspicious of the "AC-3 algorithm".

In the case of symmetric consistency, I think that it's unnecessary
complexity, because the system converges on the initial iteration.

In the case of asymmetric consistency, I think that the work involved in
maintaining the data structures needed for correctness will almost always
exceed the work saved.

But I could be wrong.  I am not sure yet if I understand the underlying
algorithm!

--
Raul

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