Jose, Here's a simper version. Using the aspect ratio helps make the
derivative more obvious.  I use Chrome and I don't know how this will look
elsewhere.

Load 'plot'
u=: -:
v=: *:
Y=:_2 + 0.5 * i.9
f=: 13 :'(] ; [:|:u@v d._2 _1 0 1 2 )y'
f
plot f Y
'aspect 1'plot f Y

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Alvord
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 9:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] atop continues to puzzle me

   load'plot'
   
   u=: -:
   v=: *:
   Y=: _2 + 0.01 * i.401
   f=: 13 :'(] ; [:|:u@v d._2 _1 0 1 2 )y'
   f
] ; [: |: u@v d._2 _1 0 1 2
   plot f Y
   
If this is in a  jijs  and then run, it will shw the graph you expect bu t
it will provide a long J error message in a separate window.  I don't know
how to prevent it.

Also, maybe when  u@v  can be replaced by  ([:u v)"v  that will work also.

Linda 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jose Mario
Quintana
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] atop continues to puzzle me

To Raul:

> I have no idea what "works reasonably well" means.

That is a very subjective statement, apparently one can make use of
(@) and (@:) within the scope of (d.) but, of course, that depends on one's
point of view.

> But consider also:
>
> AT=: 2 :0
> u@v"v
> )
>
> +:AT*: d. 1
> 0 4x&p."0 0 0
> +:@*: d. 1
> 0 4x&p.

This also happens for (at) and I was trying to point it out this difference
in my first message:

"
> Rather works almost exactly?
>
>    ('*'"_) @ ((+: @ *:) (d.1)) (0 1 2)
>  *
>     ('*'"_) @ ((+: at *:) (d.1)) (0 1 2)
>  ***
>
>    ((+: @ *:) (d.1)) b.0
>  _ _ _
>     ((+: at *:) (d.1)) b.0
>  0 0 0
"

However, (d.) also treats differently (at) and (AT)!  (See below.)

>
> In both cases the rank of the left argument of d. is the same. So what 
> we see here is that the rank of the result of d. depends on something 
> other than the rank of its arguments. Have you found any documentation 
> that describes the rank of the results of the d.
> conjunction?

No, hence the words "seems arbitrary" in

> and (@:) works reasonably well, although the rank change from 0 to _ 
> seems arbitrary, but it stumbles for (at) and ([:),

To Linda:

> Jose, I'm working on your plot program and I found a ray of hope...

Raul's (AT), unlike (at), does the job of plotting the functions:

   plot @: (] ; |: @: ((u AT v) d. _2 _1 0 1 2)) Y

although in a different fashion, at least for the fixed version according to
the interpreter:

   plot @: (] ; |: @: ((u AT v)f. d. _2 _1 0 1 2)) Y
   plot @: (] ; |: @: ((u @ v)f. d. _2 _1 0 1 2)) Y

   (u AT v)f. d. _2 _1 0 1 2
(0 0 0 0 1r24&p."0 0 0 , 0 0 0 1r6&p."0 0 0 , -:@*:"0 0 0 , ["0 0 0 ,
1"0"0 0 0)"0
   (u @ v)f. d. _2 _1 0 1 2
(0 0 0 0 1r24&p. , 0 0 0 1r6&p. , -:@*: , [ , 1"0)"0

Although so far it has not been confirmed, there is plenty of evidence that
(d.) attracted some bugs; Raul's (at) and ([:) do not work well in this
context but they should have worked.

It seems to me that you would like to use  (2 : '([: u v)"v') instead of (@)
because the former is more clear to you. But I would like to second Henri's
advice, if you understand (2 : '([: u v)"v')  then you understand (@).  Why
would you like then to use a long hand, so to speak, instead of a short hand
(besides, as this thread shows, (@) is more reliable)?  Similar comments,
but to lesser extent, apply to ([:) vs. (@:).

________________________________________________________________________

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Linda Alvord 
> <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> It seems to need  d."0  but I can't seem to figure how to do it.
>
> You can use "0 on the result of d.  For example:
>
> (d. 1) (" 0)
>
> I do not think  you should have to do this, but it works.
>
> --
> Raul
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