Eric my vision and memory is a bit poor, so i have 9 screens that surround me:) So it is not space, but organization that i am most concerned with. i do like having everything - cause and effect - visible. Clicking on links within frames keeps within the frame, and changing TARGET_jhs_, as you suggest keeps J links within their present frame. i can and do create a new tab whenever it is useful.
Silent behaviour (and/or its lack) is difficult for me. Eg the save & save as commands silently fail if the target is incorrect. Many editors have something to indicate the changed, but unsaved, file status. Sweeping across these indicators clean is a great way to wrap up. greg ~krsnadas.org -- from: Eric Iverson <[email protected]> to: [email protected] date: 29 January 2013 07:53 subject: Re: [Jprogramming] JHS update available Greg, You can get the old behavior back by setting TARGET_jhs_ to ''. If you do this in the session, you will have to refresh to get the new behavior on that page. If this is what you want you should do it in a startup script. I'm a little surprised you like the frame layout that would prefer not getting new pages, I find the flexibility of multiple tabs and multiple windows to be more convenient. It works well with limited screen real estate (multiple tabs) or lots of space with multiple windows. Dragging tabs to change tab order and create/merge/shuffle windows works well. -- from: Linda Alvord <[email protected]> to: [email protected] date: 29 January 2013 01:51 subject: Re: [Jprogramming] JHS update available I found this annoying but thought it was a "feature" that was invented by "Chrome". I still miss the green divisions which showed which version of a script had been run and separated all the stuff that builds up in jijx. Some things you get used to that later disappear are why so many things that worked years ago can't seemed to be rescued. I guess that so many more things can now be done that we should move on anyway.... So much of the new stuff is really great! Linda -- from: greg heil <[email protected]> to: [email protected] date: 28 January 2013 20:22 subject: Re: [Jprogramming] JHS update available Eric Is there any way to get the old behavior back? i am running a multipane system similar to demo9 (and demo9 exhibits the same predilection). When i use the link menu it opens a new tab rather than staying within the frame. This breaks the frame structure. Those frames are named, not _blank greg ~krsnadas.org -- from: Edward Mokurai Cherlin <[email protected]> via forums.jsoftware.com to: Programming forum <[email protected]> date: 22 January 2013 14:55 subject: Re: [Jprogramming] JHS update available -- On Mon, January 21, 2013 7:51 pm, Tom Arneson wrote: Terrific! Yes, just what I was wishing for in order to write interactive math textbooks using J. Has anybody documented how to embed J in HTML5 documents? My next wish is to get J packaged for Fedora and Debian Linux, and then wrapped for use within Sugar education software. Is anybody here working on packaging? --- Edward Mokurai (??/??????????/???????) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks -- From: Eric Iverson <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 16:21 To: Programming forum Subject: [Jprogramming] JHS update available A significant update is available for JHS. JHS was first released before HTML5 was generally available. JHS now has DOCTYPE for HTML5. Previously it had DOCTYPE for HTML4 transitional. This probably has no effect for modern browsers, may break some old browsers, but is the right choice for the future and possibly avoids browser compatibility bugs. Before HTML5, the use of target="_blank" in either HTML or JAVASCRIPT to open a page in a new tab was strongly deprecated and JHS conformed to this unfortunate advice. This meant that to open a link, such as an ijs editor, in a new page you had to click the link while holding down ctrl+shift. HTML5 dedeprecates (?) _blank and with ubiquitous tab support is used in JHS to provide a more desktop application like experience. New tabs are opened as 'expected' and it is easy to adjust your tabs and to drag a tab away from the browser frame to create new windows as desired. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
