Thanks, Joe. I take my hat off to you, if you, a beginner, can run a lab in JQt from a downloaded .ijt file.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]> wrote: > Ian, thank you for uploading and creating a lab. I've downloaded it from > svn and used it in jqt 8. I was uncertain how to get started from the wiki > page that referenced it. The lab, test file, and tte.ijs makes it immensely > more clear to me. I've only used it a bit and found it to be very helpful > for a beginner such as myself. > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:49 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I can that you can commit changes to svn, can you explain why you cannot > > change the lablist.txt? > > > > On 19 Sep, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Ian Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It's okay Bill, I've located the one verb I've used in misc.ijs and > > copied > > > it into tte.ijs. > > > > > > It works fine now in JQt. > > > > > > But to run: tte.ijs -needs this line inserting in lablist.txt: > > > Debug;Explicate a given tacit verb;~addons/debug/tte/tte.ijt > > > > > > open '~addons/labs/labs/lablist.txt' NB. -to do the hand-edit > > > > > > but I don't know how to fix lablist.txt via svn. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:33 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Try load the specific script inside the specific misc folder > > >> > > >> require '~addons/.../misc/....ijs' > > >> > > >> On 19 Sep, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Ian Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Further to this, I've uploaded a new addon: 'debug/tte' > > >>> > > >>> used like this: > > >>> require 'debug/tte' > > >>> mytacitverb tte > > >>> > > >>> Studio > Labs --shows a new lab under Category: Debug: > > >>> Explicate (convert to explicit) a given tacit verb > > >>> > > >>> Or you can get some rough'n'ready documentation with: > > >>> ABOUT_tte_ > > >>> > > >>> At present it only works under j602. When I try it under j64-801 it > > fails > > >>> because: > > >>> require 'misc' > > >>> is no longer supported, giving the error: not found: > > >>> /Applications/j64-801/bin/misc > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Thanks Ian. trace looks helpful too. I hadn't stumbled upon that > yet. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Ian Clark <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Joe Bogner asks: > > >>>>> " Is there a utility to generate an explicit definition from a > tacit > > >>>>> definition?" > > >>>>> > > >>>>> There've certainly been attempts at one. There hasn't been any > > >> published > > >>>>> improvement on this one by Zsban Ambrus: > > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Scripts/TacitToExplicit > > >>>>> ...though I've had an add-on on the stocks, waiting to get properly > > >>>> tested > > >>>>> for almost a year now. (Sorry... it was low priority.) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I also wrote a "roadmap" a year ago to pull together all the > relevant > > >>>> stuff > > >>>>> on jwiki... > > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Guides/Tacit_to_explicit_roadmap > > >>>>> ...but I notice I didn't finish it (it needs to mention Ambrus's > > "tte", > > >>>> and > > >>>>> it's incomplete in "Approach #2"). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I'm learning the evaluation rules for tacit expressions, since > that > > is > > >>>>>> what's commonly posted as solutions. Is there a utility to > generate > > an > > >>>>>> explicit definition from a tacit definition? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> For example, to generate a tacit expression from explicit > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 13 : '(+/ y) % # y' > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> +/ % # > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Is there some routine to expand that out? (I've now learned that > > its a > > >>>>>> fork). It seems possible that it could expand out to multiple > > >> possible > > >>>>>> variants -- since as I understand, it's a reduced form. I've > looked > > at > > >>>>>> fndisplay but didn't put too much time into it yet since I wasn't > > sure > > >>>>> that > > >>>>>> it's what I was looking for. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Along those same lines, j6 shows a representation of an expression > > in > > >>>>> boxes > > >>>>>> which I've found to be helpful to understand how an expression is > > >>>>> grouped. > > >>>>>> I haven't seen that same functionality in j7 or j8. Does it exist? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I find myself spending a fair amount of time taking an expression > > and > > >>>>> then > > >>>>>> looking up its parts in the Vocabulary to understand what its > doing. > > >>>>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>> For information about J forums see > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>> For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >>>>> > > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >>>> > > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
