> I wanted to use the dyadic definition, but did not have
a meaningful value for x, so I used ~ (giving the effect of y m} y).


There seems to be a lot more going on there.  There is already an x value of 1.

for instance with the value x of _3 _2 0 or 2, an answer is provided, but item 
1 of the middle cell is also modified.  Other values of x give various domain 
or index errors.  If the '~' is removed, then x values of 0 to 2, produce a 
middle cell of 6 to 8.  I can't follow what causes those results at all.

On another note, to change "rows" 2 and 3 of "column 1 to new values 3 and 5 
respectively:

   1 (3 5"_)`(2 3"_)`]}~(L:0)@{`(1"_)`]} (<"1 &. |:  i. 5 3), <'ABCDE'
┌──────────┬──────────┬───────────┬─────┐
│0 3 6 9 12│1 4 3 5 13│2 5 8 11 14│ABCDE│
└──────────┴──────────┴───────────┴─────┘

Next I'm trying to change columns 1 and 4 row 2 to 3 and 'F', but I expect that 
to be harder.




----- Original Message -----
From: Raul Miller <[email protected]>
To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 5:27:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Amend trickiness part 2

The verb m} has two different definitions, one gets used for contexts
that look like m} y and the other gets used for contexts that look
like x m} y.  I wanted to use the dyadic definition, but did not have
a meaningful value for x, so I used ~ (giving the effect of y m} y).

Meanwhile, if you need to deal with heterogeneous data, you might
consider using different names to hold the different pieces, rather
than putting it all in one array. The distinction is largely a matter
of taste, of course, but from my point of view simplicity is a virtue.

Does this help?

Thanks,

-- 
Raul


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thank you Raul.  I don't understand the use of '~' here.
>
> To answer your remark about boxes, the data could have looked like:
>
>   1 3:`2:`]}~&.>@{`1:`]} (<"1 &. |:  i. 5 3), <'ABCDE'
> ┌──────────┬───────────┬───────────┬─────┐
> │0 3 6 9 12│1 4 3 10 13│2 5 8 11 14│ABCDE│
> └──────────┴───────────┴───────────┴─────┘
>
> The data can represent 4 columns with each contained list item corresponding 
> to 1 row of data.
>
> '~' if I follow, is evoke reversed y u x.  If it is removed, the sentence 
> returns 7 which is the original value that 3 replaces.  So, it is being 
> called with x and y 1 and 7 (reversed).  Why that works especially with right 
> gerund getting 1 instead of 7 is hard for me to guess.
>
>
> changing the middle select verb form [ to 1: and left "new" verb from 3: to 
> 3"_ produces
>
>    1 (3"_)`2:`]}~&.>@{`[`]} (<"1 &. |:  i. 5 3), <'ABCDE'
> ┌──────────┬───────────┬───────────┬─────┐
> │0 3 6 9 12│1 4 3 10 13│2 5 8 11 14│ABCDE│
> └──────────┴───────────┴───────────┴─────┘
>    1 3("_)`2:`]}~&.>@{`1:`]} (<"1 &. |:  i. 5 3), <'ABCDE'
> ┌───────────┐
> │1 4 7 10 13│
> └───────────┘
>
> though changing each to L:0 allows both forms.
>
>    1 (3"_)`2:`]}~(L:0)@{`1:`]} (<"1 &. |:  i. 5 3), <'ABCDE'
> ┌──────────┬───────────┬───────────┬─────┐
> │0 3 6 9 12│1 4 3 10 13│2 5 8 11 14│ABCDE│
> └──────────┴───────────┴───────────┴─────┘
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Raul Miller <[email protected]>
> To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 4:00:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Amend trickiness part 2
>
> As a general rule, I prefer to avoid thinking about boxes.
>
> In my opinion, either (a) boxes should be avoided, or (b) box
> boundaries should correspond to definitional boundaries. (It seems
> wrong, to me, to have such a clear declaration of modularity and not
> express it in the language I am building).
>
> That said, here's what I think you might be asking for:
>
>    1 3:`2:`]}~&.>@{`[`]} <"1 |:  i. 5 3
> +----------+-----------+-----------+
> |0 3 6 9 12|1 4 3 10 13|2 5 8 11 14|
> +----------+-----------+-----------+
>
> Still... for these numbers, I think I'd much prefer something like:
>
>    |:3 (<2 1)} i.5 3
> 0 3 6  9 12
> 1 4 3 10 13
> 2 5 8 11 14
>
> (It's just so much easier when you're working at the right level of
> abstraction.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> instead of:
>>
>>   (3) (2)} L:0  (1}) |: <"1 |:  i. 5 3
>> ┌───────────┐
>> │1 4 3 10 13│
>> └───────────┘
>>
>> I'd like:
>>
>> ┌──────────┬───────────┬───────────┐
>> │0 3 6 9 12│1 4 3 10 13│2 5 8 11 14│
>> └──────────┴───────────┴───────────┘
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Raul Miller <[email protected]>
>> To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:40:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Amend trickiness part 2
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> I would have hoped that the right approach was:
>>>
>>>    3 [L:0(2})`1:`]} |: <"1 |:  i. 5 3
>>> ┌─┐
>>> │3│
>>> └─┘
>>>
>>> but no.
>>
>> I've lost track of your goal.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Raul
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