Just uploaded an updated version of viewmat which tries to 
workaround the cache problem.  Please test again and 
report any problems. Thanks.

Чт, 18 сен 2014, Linda Alvord написал(а):
> Raul,  I'm a great fan of "start over".  This is when I discovered there were 
> ghosts in the closet! Starting over does not rid you of the images that you 
> just created. They will pop up when you run another script.
> 
> The exciting thing about the beta version is that you can create inages in 
> JHS as part of a dialog.  You create the image as you would using viewmat in 
> jqt.  However, now it does not appear in a little wrapper that you can copy 
> and paste in paint.  Then you save it as a jpg and it is understood in the 
> "real world"  It is ready to be pasted in a Word document.
> 
> In paint, one of the  issues is that you must get rid of the image before you 
> can use it to process another image, similar to the ghosts I am describing.
> 
> Now, however, in JHS, the image acts just like a regular terminal in regard 
> to images.  A=:3 4$i.12 creates a table.  With a color palette of colors, 
> like crayons you can make an image.  It appears without the wrapper.  It is 3 
> rows of 4 columns of color. It appears right under the table of data.  This 
> is great.  You can create one image after another happily.  The trouble comes 
> when you capture the sequence in a script. ( or two scripts).  Once you use 
> the first one, it seems to remember some of the images.  Now it uses then in 
> the next script with the wrong data array.
> 
> As a side feature, it is creating a png for each image which is landing in 
> the temp folder.  Now I tried removing all those images and started over 
> again.  However, the old images persist.  
> 
> That’s when I went for:
> 
> erase 'A' 
> 
>  and got a 1.  I was happy.  However when I ran the bad script again the 
> images were still mixed up. Thus my concern with the fact that a second use 
> of  (erase 'A') and it seemed strange to get another 1.
> 
> In all the years I have known that there are many verbs defined in locales.  
> It has never occurred to me that I might want to erase them.  However, ie I 
> use "each" I sometimes erase it from my active terminal, but that is about it 
> for using erase.  It has always seemed odd to me, but it worked well enough 
> for data arrays so I could live with it.
> 
> I guess that about sums up the answer to your "why question"  My earlier post 
> were in the beta forum but somehow this got into the programming forum.
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Raul Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:22 PM
> To: Programming forum
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] OOJ and calling a verb from another locale
> 
> Hmm...
> 
> Usually when I want a clean slate, I start J over again.
> 
> This way, if I need something, that I forgot to put in the script, I
> can pull it out of the old J. And then I can shut it down when myi.
> tests are working well enough.
> 
> This works better with jqt than with jhs.
> 
> And you are right - I doubt many children would find interesting most
> of the things I play with. Actually, that's probably true of most
> people.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Raul
> 
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Linda Alvord <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > Raul,  My way of thinking about J is as a form of dialog.  As I enter I use
> > varialble on the fly.  A=:  allows me to use A until I change it's value.
> > However often I just want to get rid of it.  Often I keep scripts of the
> > sentences I am using to develop an idea.  When I am ready to use the scrip
> > entirely I erase all names that I have used and get a bunch of ones.  I
> > assume that it has erased all the names I have used.  However in this
> > insance, as in most I have no interest in other locales. And have never seen
> > a need to erase them anyway.
> >
> > So I have assigned names to images or in some cases have not assigned names
> > to them.  What is happening is that If I use a C in one script and then a C
> > in another script I don't get the image that agrees with the new data in the
> > new script.
> >
> > In my simplistic way of thinking about the old image is that it must be on a
> > clipboard somewhere. If running a new script could get rid of the old images
> > that are hidden somewhere?
> >
> > I can see many ways for young children to make an study images that will
> > teach them many things about tables and arrays. However, the suggestions
> > about cache and some of your suggestions would be stumbling blocks to
> > simplicidty.
> >
> > I may be naïve but it seems like a housekeeping chore that J could be good
> > at.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Raul Miller
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:01 PM
> > To: Programming forum
> > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] OOJ and calling a verb from another locale
> >
> > Reading that article, I stall when you say
> >
> > "Even if they are defined with 1 : or 2 : , the first 2 types of
> > modifiers should be considered tacit,"
> >
> > I do not know what you are referring to by the phrase "the first 2
> > types of modifiers". Do you mean "the first 2 types of adverbs (or
> > conjunctions)" or are you referring to nounconj and nounconj2? If  the
> > latter, I think the statement is erroneous. If the former, I'm a bit
> > dubious about the distinction.
> >
> > The concept of tacit is slippery enough that it's probably worth
> > quoting the definition you are using, and describing what it is about
> > the context  that makes "tacit" a relevant concept whenever we talk
> > about it.
> >
> > Anyways, I got stuck there, and I thought you should know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Raul
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:54 PM, 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> You may find this article helpful:
> > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/PascalJasmin/3%20types%20of%20adverbs%20conju
> > nctions%20and%20binding
> >>
> >> These are indeed issues you understand by surprise (why is this code not
> > doing what I meant it to do) comming from other languages.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Brian Schott <[email protected]>
> >> To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:05 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] OOJ and calling a verb from another locale
> >>
> >> Pascal,
> >>
> >> I especially liked the point you made below. I think such a point would be
> >> very appreciated by new J programmers and may not be well known.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "... In J, the verb  (2 + myvar"_) will produce a constant verb based on
> >> the value of myvar at definition, while (2 + 3 : 'myvar') will obtain the
> >> latest value of myvar. ..."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> (B=)
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