The J forum is my elementary school set of sub imjects. What you suggest is exactly what I would hope would happen in a J classroom. All would have J. All could experiment and exchange ideas. Hopefully they would have solutions they believe were correct. Then they could explain their thinking to the entire class and the teacher. At this point in the process, the teacher would not be a leader but a follower.
Possibly I am dreaming.... Linda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of robert therriault Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Weekend Puzzle - Age of Groundhog born 2002 2 2 Hi Linda, If you are looking for a way to get learners to be interested in the problem, why not use the very model of learning that we are using here? You put a problem out to your class (forum) and see how the responses go. You as the teacher (moderator) are free to choose the rules, knowing that the students (participants) are able to put their attention elsewhere if things are not kept interesting. It is a style of learning that we use on these forums everyday and it seems to work for us. What might not work as well is going into the class and showing them how to solve the problem, as this takes away so much from the experience that we enjoy when we are learning. The challenge for the teacher is not so much coming up with a solution, as it is to make sure that they are engaging as many students as possible. This is especially true at the extremes of the class' abilities - both the really adept and those that are struggling with the concepts are where teachers are most valuable. Just my two bits, but I would probably just start with the question of 'how would you measure time in metric?' and use that as a way to explore all the ways that you would count and group the types of time and how they way we measure time can be pretty crazy and why it might be good if we could get computers to do the work of taking care of the crazy systems that we have set up. Where the class would take this in terms of topic is wide open, as a teacher you just make sure that as the core concepts arise they are covered accurately. Cheers, bob ps. The quickest way to get me to care about the age of your groundhog is to have one of my classmates start trying to figure it out, but my learning is usually socially motivated. :-) On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Linda > > The solution is quite simple and uses one built verb from an addon. I > posted it with the solution masked so others can try it on their own > without accidentally seeing mine > > The actual solution is the result of this: > > |. solution2 > On Sep 20, 2014 11:54 AM, "Linda Alvord" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We are talking children here. >> >> Onyadot. emiTetaDot, ffiDst, onyadot, emiTetaDot, emitetad, sepyt and >> eriuqer are all denied! >> >> How about using +, -, *, ?, %: and that sort of thing. >> >> I must admit you did get the right answer! >> >> You can also get a second chance. >> >> Cheers, Linda >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Bogner >> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:10 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Weekend Puzzle - Age of Groundhog born 2002 2 2 >> >> solution... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1 >> 2 >> 3 >> 4 >> 5 >> >> >> lightly obfuscated for someone who doesn't want the solution >> >> >> solution1=: 0 : 0 >> >> )2 2 2002 onyadot emiTetaDot( ffiDst )02 9 4102 onyadot emiTetaDot( >> >> 'emitetad/sepyt' eriuqer >> >> ) >> >> >> >> to run: >> >> >> 0!:1 |. solution1 >> >> >> >> solution2 =: 0 : 0 >> >> )2 2 2002( ffiDst )02 9 4102( >> >> 'emitetad/sepyt' eriuqer >> >> ) >> >> >> 0!:1 |. solution2 >> >> >> >> note: both take advantage of a addon. solution1 uses todayno just because >> it was stated in the problem but solution2 is what I'd really use >> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Linda Alvord <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Using the verb todayno which provides the number of days since the >>> beginning of 1800, write what you need to find the age today of a >>> groundhog >>> born on 2002 2 2. >>> >>> >>> >>> todayno 2014 9 2014 >>> >>> 80418 >>> >>> >>> >>> 2014 9 20 age 2002 2 2 >>> >>> 12 7 18 >>> >>> >>> >>> His age is 12 years, 7 months and 18 days. Use simple J. 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