Yes, I think that would do it nicely. A simple suggestion: Add an item "About" (or "Quick Guide") to the dissect Help drop down menu that merely opens the Wiki entry which I find very useful as a quick reference.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > There can be a config file for dissect. I'll work on that. > > I classed the switches into two classes, one set that persists across the > whole J session and one that applies to just the current sentence. > The whole-session switches are sizes & tooltips, show @ @:, and show full > modifier-names. I thought that Show ][ would be rarely used. > > A config file would solve the problem. > > Henry Rich > > > On 3/5/2015 10:36 AM, Jose Mario Quintana wrote: > >> Personally, I prefer the last one but the first option would be fine as >> well. >> >> One suggestion: It would be nice to be able to save and load the >> preferences settings; even starting with the last settings would make the >> use of dissect a lot easier for me (I find myself checking the "Show ][" >> and "Show @ @: etc" too often). I understand that sometimes these are not >> applicable but perhaps they could remain somehow checked in the background >> to be activated when applicable to a particular sentence? >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> (I wasn't suggesting you as a first-time J user, but a first-time user of >>> dissect and its labs.) >>> >>> Do you think it would be sufficient to put () around J symbols? We did >>> that in some places but not all. What about for names like u, v, and y? >>> >>> The sentence (+/ y) takes the sum of items of (y). >>> >>> -or- >>> >>> The sentence ((+/ y)) takes the sum of items of ((y)). >>> >>> -or- >>> >>> The sentence {+/y} takes the sum of items of {y}. >>> >>> -or- >>> >>> The sentence >>> >>> +/y >>> >>> takes the sum of items of y. >>> >>> (This last form doesn't work when the J words are at the beginning or end >>> of the sentence) >>> >>> Henry Rich >>> >>> >>> On 3/5/2015 5:40 AM, Björn Helgason wrote: >>> >>> Wellll... >>>> >>>> I am not sure how well I qualify as a first time user. >>>> I do try to put my eyes on issues for newcomers. >>>> >>>> As always J symbols can not well mix with ordinary speach so one thing >>>> to >>>> note is to not place J sentences nor parts there of in a line with >>>> something else. >>>> >>>> . after a J sentence can change the J sentences meaning and at least >>>> confuse the newcomer even if the . is preceded by a space. >>>> >>>> ) can also be a problem. >>>> >>>> I had an older version of the lab and there the line wrap caused some >>>> confusion because the 2) item came at the end of a line and looked like >>>> it >>>> belonged to the J sentence. >>>> >>>> In general I think the howering texts are absolutely wonderful and >>>> explain >>>> the dissects nicely. >>>> >>>> The colouring is also great! >>>> >>>> This lab has brought a whole new level of ease to I would rather say to >>>> people who have made their way into J after taking the first steps >>>> rather >>>> than newcomers. >>>> >>>> It makes sence to glance at least through J for C programmers first read >>>> the labs and then read J for C again. >>>> >>>> As for my self I enjoyed stepping through the labs and I like all the >>>> multiple options and visualization it brings. >>>> >>>> I can not believe the amount of work, patience and care that has been >>>> put >>>> into this and I can not wait to take a peek behind the code used to do >>>> this >>>> magic. >>>> On 4 Mar 2015 23:21, "Henry Rich" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you're going to go through the labs in detail, we would much >>>> >>>>> appreciate >>>>> any comments you have about how they can be made easier for a >>>>> first-time >>>>> user. >>>>> >>>>> Also, use Package Manager every now and again to check for a new >>>>> version >>>>> - >>>>> we are adding sections and fixing wording. >>>>> >>>>> Henry Rich >>>>> >>>>> On 3/4/2015 9:26 AM, Björn Helgason wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I like this dissect addon and labs. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At the end of dissect II lab I sometimes get stack error trying to >>>>>> play >>>>>> with the debug >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dissect lab II >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ── ((7) 11 of 11) Assignment statements ───────────────────── >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you notice anything unusual in the Dissect displays as >>>>>> >>>>>> you were single-stepping through the program? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> When Dissect is called from the debugger, assignment >>>>>> >>>>>> statements are ignored. The Dissect display is informational >>>>>> >>>>>> only. The dissected line will be executed when the program >>>>>> >>>>>> resumes. Therefore, side-effects such as assignments should >>>>>> >>>>>> be avoided. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Side-effects in verbs called by your sentence cannot be >>>>>> >>>>>> avoided; you should avoid dissecting lines that have >>>>>> >>>>>> side-effects. >>>>>> >>>>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>>> |stack error: run1 >>>>>> >>>>>> |[-1] >>>>>> >>>>>> |stack error >>>>>> >>>>>> |stack error >>>>>> >>>>>> |stack error >>>>>> >>>>>> |stack error >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If I ignore the steps etc in debug the lab finishes fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like debug is getting better but it is not quite failfree for >>>>>> ignorant people like me. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This dissect stuff will keep me busy for a while I guess I have to run >>>>>> the >>>>>> labs over a few times. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am pretty sure it will help a lot of people understand J execution >>>>>> better. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is quite nice to get to study the examples more slowly than just to >>>>>> quickly glance through the whole thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is easy to miss some of the features. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope I will be better at managing the debug now. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-03-03 9:12 GMT+00:00 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is great!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I put a fairly complicated sentence with a hook into dissect and the >>>>>>> display is nice and then the explanation on pointing at elemnents >>>>>>> quite >>>>>>> inomative andgood >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have not had time to go through the labs yet but intending to >>>>>>> shortly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Look forward testing/using this and finally getting a good debug in >>>>>>> J I >>>>>>> can use and understand. >>>>>>> On 2 Mar 2015 01:13, "Henry Rich" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Version 3.7 of the Dissect addon is released, for j6.02 and >>>>>>> J8.03+. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dissect aims to be the easiest-to-use and most complete tool for >>>>>>>> learning >>>>>>>> J and debugging J sentences, and I think this version is a big step >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> direction. Check it out if you haven't yet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This release has: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Tutorial labs to help you learn dissect (thanks to David Steele >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> writing these). If you're not a J guru, you might learn some J too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Built-in help, with tooltips for all the display components, so >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> hover over blocks and see what they mean. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Integration into the J8 debugger so that you can press a button to >>>>>>>> dissect the sentence the debugger has stopped on. There's also an >>>>>>>> Autodissect Mode so that as you step through a verb, every sentence >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> dissected automatically before it is executed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMPORTANT: When you get the new debug/dissect from Package Manager, >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> sure you also get the latest versions of labs/labs, ide/qt, and the >>>>>>>> Base >>>>>>>> Library. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Labs will run on J6.02, they're just not released for that >>>>>>>> platform, >>>>>>>> so if you're still on 6.02 you can download them on J8.03 and copy >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> Labs directory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Henry Rich >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ >>>>>>>> forums.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> ---------- >>>>>> >>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ >>>>> forums.htm >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ---------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ---------- >>>> >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
