> "in the order in which they appear in y"?

Isn't that kind of circular?  What is the order in which they appear?
Row-major order, index order, "normal order", etc.

The way Ken has it seems pretty good:  "ordered by items, by items within
items, etc."




On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:

> You're right...
>
> Now, how would you describe the order?  Would 'index order" be enough?
> The Dictionary says "normal order" and then goes on to define it.  I have
> looked for years for the right words.  It has to be short and intuitive -
> not a mathematical definition.
>
> How about "in the order in which they appear in y"?
>
> Henry Rich
>
>
> On 3/10/2016 6:30 PM, Nicholas Spies wrote:
>
>> This is perhaps a quibble, but...
>>
>> Looking at the NuVoc definition of , y Ravel
>>
>> The following statement and the example directly below it...
>> --------
>> Produces a list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List>
>> containing all the atoms
>> <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Atom> in y, in order.
>>
>> An atom <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Atom> is converted
>> to a 1-atom list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List>, a
>> list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List> is left
>> unchanged, and any noun <
>> http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Noun>
>> of higher rank <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Rank> is
>> flattened into a list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List
>> >
>>
>>     ]z=: 0 10 20 +/ i.   NB. sample noun
>>   0  1  2  3  4
>> 10 11 12 13 14
>> 20 21 22 23 24
>>
>>     ,z
>> 0 1 2 3 4 10 11 12 13 14 20 21 22 23 24
>> -------------------
>>
>> ...and also...
>>
>>     ,'ace',.'bdf'
>>
>> abcdef
>>
>>
>> ...give the first impression that Ravel puts the items into lexical order,
>>
>> which is misleading, as shown by the example 2 under Common Uses:
>>
>>
>> ]a =: 4 4 ?@$ 100
>>
>> 89 91 1 24
>>
>> 88 43 43 32
>>
>> 85 84 27 31
>>
>> 10 11 49 90
>>
>> +/ 50 < , a
>>
>> 6
>>
>> ,a
>>
>> 89 91 1 24 88 43 43 32 85 84 27 31 10 11 49 90
>>
>>
>> Since NuVoc is targeting new users, the 'in order' statement should. IMHO,
>> specify explicitly the order as being <whatever description is
>> appropriate>.
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     ,'ace',.'bdf'
>>> abcdef
>>>     'ace',@,.'bdf'
>>> abcdef
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     ,|:'ace',:'bdf'
>>>> abcdef
>>>>     'ace'([: , |:@,:)'bdf'
>>>> abcdef
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Kip Murray <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A quickie -- how do you interweave two equal-length lists, so that
>>>>>
>>>>>     'ace' itw 'bdf'
>>>>> abcdef
>>>>>
>>>>> --Kip Murray
>>>>>
>>>>>
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